Another first-hand account of the new patdowns...
Nov 4, 2010, 7:51 pm
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Pat-Down Idiocy
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Nov 5, 2010, 8:51 am
#47
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Somebody, somewhere, needs to shake us from this stupor of blind policy and blind obedience. I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't some test -- a test of just how stupid Americans are.
Nov 5, 2010, 9:53 am
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Wow
http://www.infowars.com/tsa-fondles-...body-scanners/
Woman who works for Alex Jones describes a "pat down" that was quite invasive. What's interesting is that it was a MALE TSA doing this genital groping on the woman giving the narrative (Michelle). After he was done with her, he tried to pat down her two girls (2 and 8) and Michelle demanded a female TSA for their children.
Woman who works for Alex Jones describes a "pat down" that was quite invasive. What's interesting is that it was a MALE TSA doing this genital groping on the woman giving the narrative (Michelle). After he was done with her, he tried to pat down her two girls (2 and 8) and Michelle demanded a female TSA for their children.
"I said, 'I opt out," and they pulled us off to the side and they start at your ankle, and they worked their way up with hands on both sides of your legs, and they get to your private area and they feel your private area and worked their way down to the other leg and it was not the back of hand, it was palm. It was a male officer that patted me down. I would not allow a male to pat down my children."
"Next, they grabbed my breasts from up top and felt around - the whole breasts - in a complete circle and it was totally uncomfortable."
"The gentleman that did that to me, he was moving onto my daughter, and I was not going to allow a male to pat down my children. They're children. It was horrible."
"Next, they grabbed my breasts from up top and felt around - the whole breasts - in a complete circle and it was totally uncomfortable."
"The gentleman that did that to me, he was moving onto my daughter, and I was not going to allow a male to pat down my children. They're children. It was horrible."
Nov 5, 2010, 9:58 am
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Why not simple have everyone file sexual assault charges against the officers? When children are involved file charges of sexual molestation against a child. Do it automatically for every offense. Not only file them with the IG's office, but with the local police.
Nov 5, 2010, 10:35 am
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http://www.infowars.com/tsa-fondles-...body-scanners/
Woman who works for Alex Jones describes a "pat down" that was quite invasive. What's interesting is that it was a MALE TSA doing this genital groping on the woman giving the narrative (Michelle). After he was done with her, he tried to pat down her two girls (2 and 8) and Michelle demanded a female TSA for their children.
Woman who works for Alex Jones describes a "pat down" that was quite invasive. What's interesting is that it was a MALE TSA doing this genital groping on the woman giving the narrative (Michelle). After he was done with her, he tried to pat down her two girls (2 and 8) and Michelle demanded a female TSA for their children.
I thought males was not allowed to do that to females.
It is not going to be done to me.
I would scream on the top of my lungs if they do that. Specially if a strange man does it.
This is sick.
Nov 5, 2010, 10:58 am
#51
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First of all, I simply do not understand why ANY woman would allow a male screener to pat her down!! What is wrong with these people?? Opt out of the NOS and then let a man run his hands all over your body?! I don't think so! 
I have been complaining in writing for several years now about invasive pat-downs (with back of the hand) but have yet to experience the "new and improved" more invasive pat-down. When I do (and I will because I cannot lift both arms for the NOS), it will be a female patting me down and I will be protesting very loudly. The security imposed for air travel has become utterly ridiculous and I am sick to death of the government taking my rights away.
I have been complaining in writing for several years now about invasive pat-downs (with back of the hand) but have yet to experience the "new and improved" more invasive pat-down. When I do (and I will because I cannot lift both arms for the NOS), it will be a female patting me down and I will be protesting very loudly. The security imposed for air travel has become utterly ridiculous and I am sick to death of the government taking my rights away.
Nov 5, 2010, 12:40 pm
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Can somebody post the URL of our security forum in the comments of that Patrick Smith column? I just tried, but my Salon login appears to be fried.
(Just thinking those folks might be interested in what's going on over here, to judge from the Comments section)
(Just thinking those folks might be interested in what's going on over here, to judge from the Comments section)
Nov 5, 2010, 1:21 pm
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if she hadn't known of TSA issues and was too shocked to react immediately and effectively...
If she were accustomed to trust and obey "the police " and it was hard to quickly reverse that instinct ...
if she were distracted by shepherding two young kids through the airport and was sort of in 'yeah whatever' mode until she realized what was happening...
if her personality and/or background were such that she was susceptible to intimidation, especially in a situation where she didn't expect it
if the people around her acted as if it was totally OK...
if she were threatened -- what would you do if someone implied that you could be arrested for "making trouble" and your kids taken by CFS?
Nov 5, 2010, 2:59 pm
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Would any of you honestly not report this if you witnessed it and especially if you are some hot shot reporter such as this guy. Wake up.
Nov 5, 2010, 3:06 pm
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Wow, you folks are really gullible. When have you ever seen a male TSO pat down a female pax? This jerk stated that he witnessed a male TSO touch the private parts of a female child. He didnt report it right then? Would any of you honestly not report this if you witnessed it and especially if you are some hot shot reporter such as this guy. Wake up.
Would any of you honestly not report this if you witnessed it and especially if you are some hot shot reporter such as this guy. Wake up.You guys had to work hard for the rep you have!
Nov 5, 2010, 3:24 pm
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Wow, you folks are really gullible. When have you ever seen a male TSO pat down a female pax? This jerk stated that he witnessed a male TSO touch the private parts of a female child. He didnt report it right then? Would any of you honestly not report this if you witnessed it and especially if you are some hot shot reporter such as this guy. Wake up.
Would any of you honestly not report this if you witnessed it and especially if you are some hot shot reporter such as this guy. Wake up.What makes you think he is some "hot shot reporter"? I was awake enough to realize that he's obviously not a "hot shot reporter" raking in mucho moolah.
Nov 5, 2010, 3:29 pm
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Nov 5, 2010, 3:36 pm
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Wow, you folks are really gullible. When have you ever seen a male TSO pat down a female pax? This jerk stated that he witnessed a male TSO touch the private parts of a female child. He didnt report it right then? Would any of you honestly not report this if you witnessed it and especially if you are some hot shot reporter such as this guy. Wake up.
Would any of you honestly not report this if you witnessed it and especially if you are some hot shot reporter such as this guy. Wake up.
# TSA will make every effort to have two Security Officers of the same gender as the passenger being screened present during the private screening.
Nov 5, 2010, 3:56 pm
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http://www.infowars.com/tsa-fondles-...body-scanners/
Start @ 3:35
What makes you think he is some "hot shot reporter"? I was awake enough to realize that he's obviously not a "hot shot reporter" raking in mucho moolah.[/QUOTE]
Google Alex Jones and then add the word "hoax"
Nov 5, 2010, 3:57 pm
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Sorry, fella, TSA has never guaranteed same-sex pat downs. Although the protocol has changed a bit since the last time I visited the TSA propaganda page (no, not the blog), this is what they write about screening for the disabled:
"TSA will make every effort to have two Security Officers of the same gender as the passenger being screened present during the private screening"
"TSA will make every effort to have two Security Officers of the same gender as the passenger being screened present during the private screening"
