Today was the day...(The Michael Roberts/ExpressJet Story)
Nov 2, 2010, 8:22 am
#496
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Today is my first travel since the new enhanced pat Downs began. My home airport is TPA, and luck had it that I only had the metal detector outbound this am.
In anticipation of a possible penis-measuring virtual scan or sexual assault, I warned my employer, my customers, and my reps that if these are my only choice, I will do what Michael Roberts did, and will go home. I would love to be part of whatever legal action is taken, as the inability to fly basically ends my career.
In anticipation of a possible penis-measuring virtual scan or sexual assault, I warned my employer, my customers, and my reps that if these are my only choice, I will do what Michael Roberts did, and will go home. I would love to be part of whatever legal action is taken, as the inability to fly basically ends my career.
Nov 2, 2010, 8:38 am
#497
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Today is my first travel since the new enhanced pat Downs began. My home airport is TPA, and luck had it that I only had the metal detector outbound this am.
In anticipation of a possible penis-measuring virtual scan or sexual assault, I warned my employer, my customers, and my reps that if these are my only choice, I will do what Michael Roberts did, and will go home. I would love to be part of whatever legal action is taken, as the inability to fly basically ends my career.
In anticipation of a possible penis-measuring virtual scan or sexual assault, I warned my employer, my customers, and my reps that if these are my only choice, I will do what Michael Roberts did, and will go home. I would love to be part of whatever legal action is taken, as the inability to fly basically ends my career.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/m.roberts.cfi
Nov 2, 2010, 9:01 am
#498
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Today is my first travel since the new enhanced pat Downs began. My home airport is TPA, and luck had it that I only had the metal detector outbound this am.
In anticipation of a possible penis-measuring virtual scan or sexual assault, I warned my employer, my customers, and my reps that if these are my only choice, I will do what Michael Roberts did, and will go home. I would love to be part of whatever legal action is taken, as the inability to fly basically ends my career.
In anticipation of a possible penis-measuring virtual scan or sexual assault, I warned my employer, my customers, and my reps that if these are my only choice, I will do what Michael Roberts did, and will go home. I would love to be part of whatever legal action is taken, as the inability to fly basically ends my career.
I'm no expert on this but imo Crew Pass is the way to go for crew members.
Last edited by Kiwi Flyer; Nov 5, 2010 at 10:23 pm Reason: merge consecutive posts
Nov 2, 2010, 9:25 am
#499
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Nov 2, 2010, 11:04 am
#500
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If only there were 1 million Michael Roberts out there!
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if Patrick Henry were alive today. Some of his quotations from 1775 would get him put on the No-Fly List for sure:
- "Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?"
- "Give me liberty or give me death!"
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if Patrick Henry were alive today. Some of his quotations from 1775 would get him put on the No-Fly List for sure:
- "Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?"
- "Give me liberty or give me death!"
Nov 2, 2010, 11:14 am
#501
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Let the whole world see what they are doing.
Last edited by InkUnderNails; Nov 2, 2010 at 11:16 am Reason: Softened it a bit. OK, a lot.
Nov 2, 2010, 1:42 pm
#503
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Nov 2, 2010, 2:04 pm
#504
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Pa-thet-ic.
Nov 2, 2010, 2:14 pm
#505
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Exemptions for certain "special classes" from unwanted TSA procedures is NOT the route we want to go. This actually hurts our cause:
1) It gives credence to the notion that the TSA's activity is actually effective and should continue to exist for the unwashed masses
2) It tacitly admits that subjecting passengers to these procedures is OK, even if its a violation of civil liberties
3) It sends the message that convenience for pilots is the only important thing, regardless of what happens to passengers
Special exemptions for crew would actually weaken the case against the TSA at this point, as we would no longer be able to count on incidents like this one to bring media attention to the situation. I'm mildly terrified that the TSA will give in to the ALPA just to make their current media problems go away, while continuing to thrust these civil liberty violations on unsuspecting passengers.
I do NOT support or condone any special exemptions for any class of people going through the checkpoint, including airport vendors/staff and even members of TSA itself.
1) It gives credence to the notion that the TSA's activity is actually effective and should continue to exist for the unwashed masses
2) It tacitly admits that subjecting passengers to these procedures is OK, even if its a violation of civil liberties
3) It sends the message that convenience for pilots is the only important thing, regardless of what happens to passengers
Special exemptions for crew would actually weaken the case against the TSA at this point, as we would no longer be able to count on incidents like this one to bring media attention to the situation. I'm mildly terrified that the TSA will give in to the ALPA just to make their current media problems go away, while continuing to thrust these civil liberty violations on unsuspecting passengers.
I do NOT support or condone any special exemptions for any class of people going through the checkpoint, including airport vendors/staff and even members of TSA itself.
Nov 2, 2010, 7:54 pm
#506
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Nov 2, 2010, 8:33 pm
#507
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Nov 2, 2010, 8:34 pm
#508
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Nov 2, 2010, 8:41 pm
#509
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They need to get the union election behind them. Any controversy right now would not work to their advantage.
Nov 3, 2010, 6:01 am
#510
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