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Old May 13, 2010, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by PTravel
What about it?
A contradiction, since the DMCA on one hand targets breaking copy-protection, but OTOH it also states that the law is not meant to interfere with that which is arguably protected by the fair use defense, including backing up legally obtained media for archival purposes.
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Old May 13, 2010, 10:58 am
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I'm still confused - under what authority does CBP have to enforce digital rights laws?

Is it illegal to import digital media you do not own and is this part of our border and customs laws?
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Old May 13, 2010, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by Travelsonic
A contradiction, since the DMCA on one hand targets breaking copy-protection, but OTOH it also states that the law is not meant to interfere with that which is arguably protected by the fair use defense, including backing up legally obtained media for archival purposes.
You're correct, it is a contradiction, which is one of the reasons I think the DMCA is a horrible law. That's what you get when lobbyists draft legislation.

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I'm still confused - under what authority does CBP have to enforce digital rights laws?

Is it illegal to import digital media you do not own and is this part of our border and customs laws?
That's an interesting question. It is illegal to import counterfeit digital media (other than a single example for your personal use). However, it is not illegal to possess infringing digital media.

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Old May 13, 2010, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by Awtas
Huh?
If I bought CD 10 years ago, and now loaded as MP3 into my player, I should carry copy of of the cover and receipt?
As I understand it the DMCA doesn't apply to CD's. They don't have digital copy protection.
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Old May 13, 2010, 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Since when is it the job of US Customs to enforce copyright laws or comment on what movies you have on your laptop assuming it's not illegal content (kiddie porn, etc.)???
This isn't the first time.

Artist Stopped at US Border over "Copyright Infringement" Knitting Pattern

by Jordan Yerman, October 8, 2008

Keene Valley resident Jerilea Zempel was detained at the U.S. border this summer because she had a drawing of a sport-utility vehicle in her sketchbook.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers told Zempel they suspected her of copyright infringement.

She was released after more than an hour in custody at the Houlton, Maine, port of entry from New Brunswick, Canada.
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Old May 13, 2010, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by avsfan733

yup...however they would (and have) made the argument that it isn't illegal to copy, its only illegal to break encryption. The solution they proposed is playing your movie on a TV and videotaping the TV (seriously). They made that argument to try and prevent DMCA from being overturned for what it is, a serious and unnecessary restriction of consumer freedom.
I have actually known one person to do this. Make VHS tapes of their DVD's and watch those instead of the DVD's.

My biggest problem with Digital Copy protection has been with trying to back-up some 20 year old commercial VHS tapes to DVD. The process I was trying to use was low-tech. Just play the VHS tape in real-time while activating the timer-based recording on the DVD player/recorder. The timer starts, then the DVD recorder stops while the VHS continues to play. Very frustrating.
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Old May 13, 2010, 5:46 pm
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Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
I wonder when they will start searching laptops at internal border checkpoints?
If they ever try that, they will completely fly in the face of the express holding of the Supreme Court.
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Old May 13, 2010, 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by PhlyingRPh
PTravel, do you know if there have there been any attempts to legally challenge the DMCA?
Yes -- in the context of satellite TV box counterfeits. These failed. There was some discussion in Congress a few years ago about clarifying the "does not affect fair use" provision in the DMCA, but that hasn't yet happened.
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Old May 13, 2010, 6:05 pm
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Originally Posted by JohnneeO
I have actually known one person to do this. Make VHS tapes of their DVD's and watch those instead of the DVD's.

My biggest problem with Digital Copy protection has been with trying to back-up some 20 year old commercial VHS tapes to DVD. The process I was trying to use was low-tech. Just play the VHS tape in real-time while activating the timer-based recording on the DVD player/recorder. The timer starts, then the DVD recorder stops while the VHS continues to play. Very frustrating.
Aren't there some of those combo VHS/DVD players still floating out there?
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Old May 13, 2010, 7:20 pm
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Originally Posted by PTravel
You're correct, it is a contradiction, which is one of the reasons I think the DMCA is a horrible law. That's what you get when lobbyists draft legislation.
The recording, movie, and software industries should never have been able to gain as much power over the law as they do now, IMHO.
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Old May 13, 2010, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Sam5
1. Download and install Truecrypt (works on netbooks)
2. Set up your encrypted container
3. Move everything to the encrypted container
I had Truecrypt on my old laptop- it really slowed it to a crawl. Is that normal?
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Old May 13, 2010, 7:41 pm
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Originally Posted by PTravel
Absolutely incorrect.

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And be enlightened because of it.
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Old May 13, 2010, 9:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Gargoyle
I had Truecrypt on my old laptop- it really slowed it to a crawl. Is that normal?
No. I run TrueCrypt on my personal latop (and PointSec is on my work laptop) - drive encryption causes a performance hit but not so noticeable that things are sluggish / brought to a crawl. Helps to have a higher RPM drive with faster read and seek times to start with, however.
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Old May 13, 2010, 9:46 pm
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Did I miss the memo? I didn't realize that they were allowed to search files on your laptop. Are they allowed to do that even if you don't give permission? I travel with a lot of legal docs under federal protective order, among other things, and would be pretty miffed if someone insisted on nosing through my HD.
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Old May 13, 2010, 10:20 pm
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I run TrueCrypt even on my netbook with no issues.
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