Frozen liquids at the checkpoint experiences
Nov 19, 2009, 7:35 am
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Nov 19, 2009, 8:02 am
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Frozen gels/liquids are permitted if required to cool medical and infant/child exemptions. Ice is permitted as long as there is no melted liquid present.
By my reading the discussion of ice being permitted is limited to travelers with special needs.
I think TSA is blowing smoke on this.
Nov 19, 2009, 8:03 am
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Nov 19, 2009, 8:43 am
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Nov 19, 2009, 9:31 am
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Nov 19, 2009, 10:33 am
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Sorry, but a bottle of shampoo still looks like a bottle, which normally contains liquids. Also, this time the bottle was on the outside of the bag. The only logical explanation is the obvious one - they missed it, as they do more than half the time when tested independently.
Nov 19, 2009, 10:34 am
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Frozen gels/liquids are permitted if required to cool medical and infant/child exemptions. Ice is permitted as long as there is no melted liquid present.
By my reading the discussion of ice being permitted is limited to travelers with special needs.
I think TSA is blowing smoke on this.
Nov 19, 2009, 10:52 am
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The problem is that PV, Blogdad Bob or other TSA authority is saying ice is acceptable for all yet will not disclose anything official that states such.
From my perspective they are not being truthful in this matter.
This practice leaves the traveler at the mercy of a checkpoint TSA employee and with no recourse should a decision seem out of line with current known policy.
Not having a published policy for travelers is just wrong.
Nov 19, 2009, 10:59 am
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Nov 19, 2009, 11:55 am
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I absolutely agree that certain people have needs that must be met. Mr Gel Pack or a person transporting insulin or other medicines that must be cooled are good examples. These people have been accommodated all along, at least by SOP not always in practice, and rightfully so.
The problem is that PV, Blogdad Bob or other TSA authority is saying ice is acceptable for all yet will not disclose anything official that states such.
From my perspective they are not being truthful in this matter.
This practice leaves the traveler at the mercy of a checkpoint TSA employee and with no recourse should a decision seem out of line with current known policy.
Not having a published policy for travelers is just wrong.
The problem is that PV, Blogdad Bob or other TSA authority is saying ice is acceptable for all yet will not disclose anything official that states such.
From my perspective they are not being truthful in this matter.
This practice leaves the traveler at the mercy of a checkpoint TSA employee and with no recourse should a decision seem out of line with current known policy.
Not having a published policy for travelers is just wrong.
Her cup had a few ice chips in it, not liquid. Ice is a solid. Therefore, ice is permitted through the checkpoint, as long as it's screened by the X-ray (Which it was).
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Ice and other frozen solid liquids are permitted as long as they’re frozen solid and X-ray screened.
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Ice and other frozen solid liquids are permitted as long as they’re frozen solid and X-ray screened.
As far as anything official goes, the PV web page and the blog aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on. You are at the mercy of the potentially bad-apple TSOs and whatever rule they try to make up and enforce on your [belongings].
Nov 19, 2009, 12:10 pm
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Yep. In his 'clarifying' post Bob says:
IOW: Ice ain't a liquid. No opening or test stripping needed, just an x-ray like the rest of your baggage.
As far as anything official goes, the PV web page and the blog aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on. You are at the mercy of the potentially bad-apple TSOs and whatever rule they try to make up and enforce on your [belongings].
IOW: Ice ain't a liquid. No opening or test stripping needed, just an x-ray like the rest of your baggage.
As far as anything official goes, the PV web page and the blog aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on. You are at the mercy of the potentially bad-apple TSOs and whatever rule they try to make up and enforce on your [belongings].
Nov 19, 2009, 12:29 pm
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They think it is simple to "use common sense" and "just follow the rules", but when their rules are secret, conflicting, and nonsensical, it gets complicated.