Ettiquette for air marshalls?
#1
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Ettiquette for air marshalls?
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Is there a standard of behavior for air marshalls? Flew CLT PHL today. Two identically dressed, (shirts untucked, jeans, dark shoes, nylon broefcases and sunglasses) pre -pre board by cutting to the front of a very long line. Surprse - they are seated across the aisle from each other in F. Both playing video games on phones. Both have their briefcases in the OH - no other luggage. It is a full flight and the bulkhead guys can not find room for their bags. One of the bulkheaders says, whose briefcases are these? No reply. Again, "whose briefcases are these - wouol you mind putting them below your seat so I can stow my bag, I'm in bulkhead." One of the duo fesses up that it is his briefcase - but refuses to move it! Says he is in FC and he only has one bag and he can leave it up top. His partner pretends to be deaf and dumb and concentrates intensely on his video game. The FA's make no atempt to assist and te bulkead guy ends up with his bag somewhere aft. The duo then both fall asleep, (as in snoring asleep - not some sneaky security pretend to be asleep).
So what's the deal? They take two F seats on a full flight and then act like complete jerks. Shouldn't they at least have some minimum level of courtesy and understanding of how the boarding/luggage process works?
Is there a standard of behavior for air marshalls? Flew CLT PHL today. Two identically dressed, (shirts untucked, jeans, dark shoes, nylon broefcases and sunglasses) pre -pre board by cutting to the front of a very long line. Surprse - they are seated across the aisle from each other in F. Both playing video games on phones. Both have their briefcases in the OH - no other luggage. It is a full flight and the bulkhead guys can not find room for their bags. One of the bulkheaders says, whose briefcases are these? No reply. Again, "whose briefcases are these - wouol you mind putting them below your seat so I can stow my bag, I'm in bulkhead." One of the duo fesses up that it is his briefcase - but refuses to move it! Says he is in FC and he only has one bag and he can leave it up top. His partner pretends to be deaf and dumb and concentrates intensely on his video game. The FA's make no atempt to assist and te bulkead guy ends up with his bag somewhere aft. The duo then both fall asleep, (as in snoring asleep - not some sneaky security pretend to be asleep).
So what's the deal? They take two F seats on a full flight and then act like complete jerks. Shouldn't they at least have some minimum level of courtesy and understanding of how the boarding/luggage process works?
#3
Join Date: Mar 2005
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If someone doesn't respond when prompted repeatedly who a bag belongs to, you'd best pull it down and give it to the head flight attendant. Unaccompanied bags are a security threat. Remember, we're at threat level Orange - one cannot be too careful.
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Shoot, on flights I've been on, if no one claims it, the person needing the space will move it. I've seen flight attendants help on occassion, but if you don't claim it and help make room, prepare for your bag to be abused or moved some feet away and crammed in another OC that will fit it.
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In fairness to all the hard working FAM's, I can't confirm that these two louts were FAM's. GJ83 referred to "installers" I'm not sure what that means. Is there some other type of traveler that would typically travel in pairs, dress similarly and always board right behind the crew? I see this fairly regularly and always assumed they were FAM's. Good Guy, I agree, I have seen much worse behavior from MR. or MS. DYKWIA - in fact that is increasingly the norm - unfortunately.
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While I realise you are speaking tongue-in-cheek here, if you really did encounter an unattended bag, you should NEVER touch it. Simply alert the crew who will then escalate the situation based upon their assesment of circumstances.