Boston Herald: Passengers shocked by new touchy-feely TSA screening
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I believe this is the third day in a row that the Boston Herald has published a similar type story about the TSA. Finally a major newspaper who gets that this is a disgrace.
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I forgot to mention this earlier:
The TSA screeners used the palms of their hands to search her face,
Seriously? Is the TSA now practicing phrenology?
This pseudoscience is based on the false assumption that mental faculties are located in brain "organs" on the surface of the brain and can be detected by visible inspection of the skull. The Viennese physician Franz-Joseph Gall (1758-1828) claimed there are some 26 "organs" on the surface of the brain which affect the contour of the skull, including a "murder organ" present in murderers.
The TSA screeners used the palms of their hands to search her face,
Seriously? Is the TSA now practicing phrenology?
This pseudoscience is based on the false assumption that mental faculties are located in brain "organs" on the surface of the brain and can be detected by visible inspection of the skull. The Viennese physician Franz-Joseph Gall (1758-1828) claimed there are some 26 "organs" on the surface of the brain which affect the contour of the skull, including a "murder organ" present in murderers.
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I forgot to mention this earlier:
The TSA screeners used the palms of their hands to search her face,
The TSA screeners used the palms of their hands to search her face,
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I didn't think so at first, but there might actually be some merit to filing a sexual assault charge. I am not a lawyer, but here's my thought process:
You don't discover you're selected for the WBI under after the ID checker in most cases, right? So you're already part of the "screening process", which TSA says you can't back out of, at that point. Assuming you decline the WBI machine and tell the screener you do not consent to the "enhanced" pat down, they would then be touching your private parts without your consent, and after you attempted to leave the situation (assuming you told the screener you wanted to leave instead of being screened and he denied you the opportunity to do so).
TSA isn't real law enforcement, so they couldn't make the argument that a police officer could, specifically that there was some legal justification for a detailed search. I'd love to see some of us try to file the charge and see if it goes anywhere.
You don't discover you're selected for the WBI under after the ID checker in most cases, right? So you're already part of the "screening process", which TSA says you can't back out of, at that point. Assuming you decline the WBI machine and tell the screener you do not consent to the "enhanced" pat down, they would then be touching your private parts without your consent, and after you attempted to leave the situation (assuming you told the screener you wanted to leave instead of being screened and he denied you the opportunity to do so).
TSA isn't real law enforcement, so they couldn't make the argument that a police officer could, specifically that there was some legal justification for a detailed search. I'd love to see some of us try to file the charge and see if it goes anywhere.
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And that would be my tipping point. The TSO wouldn't even get across the DY...T finish line before I'd insist on summoning airport police to escort me out of this sicko's reach. Don't care how much fare would be forfeited in order to preserve some dignity.
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Wow...so now you're a prosecutor as well. Please tell all of us that are not so enlightened, with respect to MA statutes, how the administrative searches conducted by TSOs using the palms down method meets the elements of MA or any other state's sexual assault statutes.
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Wow...so now you're a prosecutor as well. Please tell all of us that are not so enlightened, with respect to MA statutes, how the administrative searches conducted by TSOs using the palms down method meets the elements of MA or any other state's sexual assault statutes.
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TSA actors are NOT exempt as defined by Fl. Statue794.011 sub section 4 paragraph (g)
It would be interesting to see how the test case plays out in court. Anyone have time and $$ to play the game?
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As described by N965VJ the 'Palm Down' method were his genitals were manually manipulated by a non-medical professional constitutes sexual battery in the state of Florida.
TSA actors are NOT exempt as defined by Fl. Statue794.011 sub section 4 paragraph (g)
It would be interesting to see how the test case plays out in court. Anyone have time and $$ to play the game?
TSA actors are NOT exempt as defined by Fl. Statue794.011 sub section 4 paragraph (g)
It would be interesting to see how the test case plays out in court. Anyone have time and $$ to play the game?
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As used in this chapter:
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“Consent” means intelligent, knowing, and voluntary consent and does not include coerced submission....
As used in this chapter:
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“Consent” means intelligent, knowing, and voluntary consent and does not include coerced submission....