Dick Cavett Opt Outs Himself
Aug 20, 2011, 7:56 am
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Dick Cavett Opt Outs Himself
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...for-the-birds/
Getting through the puns, etc. in this Op Ed is perhaps just one or two steps more pleasant than going through enhanced screening, but you get the idea.
Getting through the puns, etc. in this Op Ed is perhaps just one or two steps more pleasant than going through enhanced screening, but you get the idea.
Aug 20, 2011, 8:16 am
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I didn't even know Dick Cavett was still alive. But he can still write pretty well.
I don't entirely agree with his attitude of slightly-annoyed-acceptance, however.
I don't entirely agree with his attitude of slightly-annoyed-acceptance, however.
Aug 20, 2011, 8:23 am
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From the linked blog-
"At LaGuardia, my wife, a seasoned traveler, dutifully presented the see-through plastic bag containing a few small bottles of the approved size containing liquid. One was seized. It contained something she valued. Pointing out that it was regulation size, she got, “It ain’t labeled, lady.”
Supposing whatever possibly dangerous substance it contained had, say, “olive oil” written on it, I inquired, then would it be O.K.?
“Yes.”"
Since when have bottles in the Kippie Bag required labels? The tsa.gov web page on Kippie Bags (http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm) makes no mention of any such requirement.
"At LaGuardia, my wife, a seasoned traveler, dutifully presented the see-through plastic bag containing a few small bottles of the approved size containing liquid. One was seized. It contained something she valued. Pointing out that it was regulation size, she got, “It ain’t labeled, lady.”
Supposing whatever possibly dangerous substance it contained had, say, “olive oil” written on it, I inquired, then would it be O.K.?
“Yes.”"
Since when have bottles in the Kippie Bag required labels? The tsa.gov web page on Kippie Bags (http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm) makes no mention of any such requirement.
Aug 20, 2011, 8:45 am
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Since when have bottles in the Kippie Bag required labels? The tsa.gov web page on Kippie Bags (http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm) makes no mention of any such requirement.
Aug 20, 2011, 9:11 am
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From the linked blog-
"At LaGuardia, my wife, a seasoned traveler, dutifully presented the see-through plastic bag containing a few small bottles of the approved size containing liquid. One was seized. It contained something she valued. Pointing out that it was regulation size, she got, “It ain’t labeled, lady.”
Supposing whatever possibly dangerous substance it contained had, say, “olive oil” written on it, I inquired, then would it be O.K.?
“Yes.”"
Since when have bottles in the Kippie Bag required labels? The tsa.gov web page on Kippie Bags (http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm) makes no mention of any such requirement.
"At LaGuardia, my wife, a seasoned traveler, dutifully presented the see-through plastic bag containing a few small bottles of the approved size containing liquid. One was seized. It contained something she valued. Pointing out that it was regulation size, she got, “It ain’t labeled, lady.”
Supposing whatever possibly dangerous substance it contained had, say, “olive oil” written on it, I inquired, then would it be O.K.?
“Yes.”"
Since when have bottles in the Kippie Bag required labels? The tsa.gov web page on Kippie Bags (http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm) makes no mention of any such requirement.
Aug 20, 2011, 9:50 am
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From the linked blog-
"At LaGuardia, my wife, a seasoned traveler, dutifully presented the see-through plastic bag containing a few small bottles of the approved size containing liquid. One was seized. It contained something she valued. Pointing out that it was regulation size, she got, “It ain’t labeled, lady.”
Supposing whatever possibly dangerous substance it contained had, say, “olive oil” written on it, I inquired, then would it be O.K.?
“Yes.”"
Since when have bottles in the Kippie Bag required labels? The tsa.gov web page on Kippie Bags (http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm) makes no mention of any such requirement.
"At LaGuardia, my wife, a seasoned traveler, dutifully presented the see-through plastic bag containing a few small bottles of the approved size containing liquid. One was seized. It contained something she valued. Pointing out that it was regulation size, she got, “It ain’t labeled, lady.”
Supposing whatever possibly dangerous substance it contained had, say, “olive oil” written on it, I inquired, then would it be O.K.?
“Yes.”"
Since when have bottles in the Kippie Bag required labels? The tsa.gov web page on Kippie Bags (http://www.tsa.gov/311/index.shtm) makes no mention of any such requirement.
and what should have happened is this:Pax: "Ok, so it's not labeled-just perform your explosives test with the ETD swab on it" (and then wait for the deer-in-the-headlights-look-from-the-TSO-because-the-pax-knows-more-than-they-do-because-the-pax-is-an-experienced-traveler-and-knows-the-rulez)
Aug 20, 2011, 9:52 am
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I'm guessing that since there was no way of verifying that the container held the allowable volume of liquid, despite it's obvious size and the fact that it was in a very small bag with other items, it was at risk for random seizure... er.. voluntary surrender. Sort of like a nearly empty tube of toothpaste that obviously does not contain the original amount (over 3.4 when full) printed on the label is not allowed. Technically, allowing these sort of things through could be considered a screening "failure". Stupidity begets more stupidity, but rulz is rulz!. I used to have a toiletry travel kit that had several small refillable unlabeled plastic bottles for liquids. My guess is that there's be a pretty good "random" chance that these might now end up in the same bin with all the other potentially explosive liquids, for lack of a simple label indicating capacity when full.
At the time the liquid ban was instituted, my preferred brand of hair products were not offered in 3.4 oz/100 ml containers, but perhaps they are available in those sizes now...
Aug 20, 2011, 9:54 am
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Right. I think the issue was the label giving the volume, not contents. Of course, relying on what such a label said is silly anyway, especially if it were just something printed. Likely yet another TSO who's not using common sense in this area.
Aug 20, 2011, 10:04 am
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[QUOTE=RichardKenner;16959368]<snip> Likely yet another TSO who's not using common sense in this area.[/QUOTE
Wow! They're allowed to do that?? I was under the impression that common sense was against all the rulz. Isn't this the goal of all that training/retraining... to eliminate all vestiges of common sense?
Wow! They're allowed to do that?? I was under the impression that common sense was against all the rulz. Isn't this the goal of all that training/retraining... to eliminate all vestiges of common sense?
Aug 20, 2011, 10:27 am
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Better that than to be forced into choosing between buying small yet expensive containers of my preferred hair products at my destination which I will be forced to leave behind or bearing a striking resemblance to the literary character Rubeus Hagrid until I get back home.
At the time the liquid ban was instituted, my preferred brand of hair products were not offered in 3.4 oz/100 ml containers, but perhaps they are available in those sizes now...
At the time the liquid ban was instituted, my preferred brand of hair products were not offered in 3.4 oz/100 ml containers, but perhaps they are available in those sizes now...
Aug 20, 2011, 11:08 am
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The more articles written by (or about) respected celebrities criticizing the TSA, the better off we'll all be. Sooner or later, this stuff will make an impression on Congress, which has the power to stop the ridiculous security show.
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Aug 20, 2011, 11:09 am
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From the linked blog-
"At LaGuardia, my wife, a seasoned traveler, dutifully presented the see-through plastic bag containing a few small bottles of the approved size containing liquid. One was seized. It contained something she valued. Pointing out that it was regulation size, she got, “It ain’t labeled, lady.”
Supposing whatever possibly dangerous substance it contained had, say, “olive oil” written on it, I inquired, then would it be O.K.?
“Yes.”"
"At LaGuardia, my wife, a seasoned traveler, dutifully presented the see-through plastic bag containing a few small bottles of the approved size containing liquid. One was seized. It contained something she valued. Pointing out that it was regulation size, she got, “It ain’t labeled, lady.”
Supposing whatever possibly dangerous substance it contained had, say, “olive oil” written on it, I inquired, then would it be O.K.?
“Yes.”"
A friend told me that whenever they abandon a liquid filled bottle, the cap seems to mysteriously come undone. Must be that the Genie in the bottle wants out!!!
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