4nsicdoc

I guess this is the vaunted "professionalism" mentioned by Pistole at every opportunity. Yeah, professional bullying, worthy of an ethically challenged chupacabra.
The translation is, "You better be nice to me or I'm going to grab your wife's breasts and fondle your little boy's penis- oops, resistance. Respect by extortion. Consider yourself insulted. Now come and get me for the patdown, big boy.

4nsicdoc

Yeah, whether it is SOP or not. Thanks for clarifying that TSOs make up crap as they go.

4nsicdoc

Of course he won't. He knows what he threatened is wrong and won't have the courage to stand up for his "principles", however mean-spirited they are.

4nsicdoc

Don't stop at the IG. Send it to Drudge. Do a piece for Daily KOS repeating his threats. Public support is the mother's milk of the TSA. Let's help our resident clerks alienate Americans, one citizen at a time. Drudge has 1.9 unique readership hits/day. If enough of us send a referral to Drudge, it will get a banner headline and stay up for days. KOS has 600,00 per day. One of the other frequenters on this thread has already done his best to alienate veterans 21.9 million (2009 number) and another has gone out of his way to alienate victims of sexual assault by making fun of their reactions to unwanted touching and those victims amount to 213,000 each year. And let's not forget the 32.6 million Americans who are physically unable to use either the WBI or WTMD. Soon, they will be wondering where all the love went.

coachrowsey

Where is Castrobenes?

TheRoadie

Last Activity: Jul 5, 11 2:40 pm

Lying low?

Boggie Dog

He may be lying low but I know of at least two seperate attempts to bring his comments to the attention of DHS/TSA.

4nsicdoc

His bosses may have thrown him under the bus, after, of course, everyone on the bus was suitably groped. The huge groan you heard on the 5th was the sound of birthing pains from Pistole, et al, and particularly those in charge of defending all the suits, like the EPIC suit, spawning cows when they realized what Castro had done to their defense. The gist of the TSA defense is that their actions were legitimate administrative searches. Now we have a TSO or management type, admitting that, no, they are retaliatory actions for perceived insults. Oops. No amount of "retraining" is going to unring that bell.
To make it even worse, or better, if you feel like a complete human being without the need for a blue uniform and a dinky badge, is that in any suit by an aggrieved passenger where the agency or TSO defends saying, "It's our SOP." Castro... has stated that it's not. And the whole issue makes their precious SSI discoverable. Of course the TSA can still refuse to disclose it but the appropriate sanction then becomes a default judgment against the defendants, so the TSA gets pounded financially, and the TSO ends up where he would have been anyway, in the absence of having a job groping citizens - broke and homeless.

studentff

Please define "cooperating with the screening process" including the boundaries of "cooperation." E.g., if a TSO asks me to sing the second verse of The Star Spangled Banner, is doing so required for "cooperation?"

IMO, when I show up at the checkpoint, I have submitted myself and my property for screening. I will reluctantly allow you to grope me in a way that would be considered sexual assault in any other context other than a doctor's office or bedroom. I will allow you to x-ray my property, hand search my property, swab my property, and I will grudgingly tolerate searches that go somewhat beyond the bounds of screening for weapons, explosives, and incendiaries, which is TSA's statutory mandate. IMO that is more than enough "cooperation" to be able to exercise my right to freedom of movement, freedom of association, and freedom from being deprived of liberty or property without due process of law.

I am aware of no law or policy that requires me to speak to TSA or anyone else as a condition of travel, and courts have repeatedly ruled that silence alone cannot be grounds for suspicion.

Boggie Dog

Cooperation seems to mean anything each individual TSA Screener wants it to mean and therein lies the problem.

TSA can't even teach its people which ID's TSA claims are acceptable yet TSA gives these untrained people the ability to illegally interfere with a citizens right to travel.

The only viable answer in my opinion is to fire all current TSA employees and return airport/aircraft security to the owners of the facilities/aircraft.

SFOSpiff

Firing is too good for them. I consider them all accomplices and co-conspirators in this illegal circus. "I was just doing my job" is not a defense.

jtodd

^
This doesn't/wouldn't work overseas when defending this country, it shouldn't work for circus employees in this country.

stifle

I hope not, because I don't know it

bluenotesro

Bolding mine...

or an episode of Tourette's

Funny how, though not having Tourette's, it manifests itself when asked stupid questions by weight and mentally challenged morons in blue shirts and tin badges....

lateacher

I've taught my almost five-year old daughter that they're strangers and she shouldn't talk to them. You should see their faces when I they ask her what her name is, she ignores them, and I say, "she doesn't talk to strangers."