Mission Creep Continues
Jun 21, 2011, 11:36 am
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Mission Creep Continues
Another report on what we can expect from the TSA in the coming year. I am not sure why passenger cars and trucks need to be screened (though the author thinks of screening of passenger cars can't be far behind). I thought there was going to be a cut in TSA budget? I think they need another 4 or 5 billion cut from next year's budget.
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/...systems-yearly
Edited to clarify the reference to passenger cars.
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/...systems-yearly
Edited to clarify the reference to passenger cars.
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Jun 21, 2011, 12:52 pm
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TSA is going to need all that money to fight jurisdictional challenges in Texas, Michigan, Utah, Alaska, New Jersey and hopefully more states where citizens are starting to wake up and smell the Robust Fascist Blend coffee.
Jun 21, 2011, 1:43 pm
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...so they can hire more people and spend more money on shiny toys with blinkenlights that don't actually do anything useful for "security," but can easily be used to bypass constitutional restrictions on intrusive searches by calling them "administrative."
It should be pretty obvious by now that we're well past "if you don't like it, don't fly" and into "if you don't like it, don't leave your house."
The next step will be "if you don't like it, leave the United States and don't come back."
It should be pretty obvious by now that we're well past "if you don't like it, don't fly" and into "if you don't like it, don't leave your house."
The next step will be "if you don't like it, leave the United States and don't come back."
Jun 21, 2011, 2:25 pm
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Here is a quote from President Obama, July 2nd, 2008:
There are some, and for now it is a very small number, that believe that the TSA may be the implementation of this.
(I hope this did not make this OMNI bait......)
We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
(I hope this did not make this OMNI bait......)
Jun 21, 2011, 2:36 pm
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I really have to wonder what these non-airport screenings are supposed to accomplish. Most everything that TSA disallows on aircraft is legal to possess in one form or another. I can (and from time to time do) keep a pocket knife in my pocket. When I scuba dive or snorkel, I bring a long a dive knife with a nice, sharp 6" blade. I have, on occasion, brought bags of fertilizer home from the garden store. I always have some kind of electronic device with me.
I will never, under any circumstances, allow an off-airport search of my car, my possessions or my person, without a warrant or without having presented probable cause to a law enforcement officer, other than, of course, permitting the required Terry pat-down if a law enforcement officer feels that its necessary for his/her own protection.
I don't care if I'm riding a train, a bus, a bicycle, driving my car down the street, or walking through the park.
I will never, under any circumstances, allow an off-airport search of my car, my possessions or my person, without a warrant or without having presented probable cause to a law enforcement officer, other than, of course, permitting the required Terry pat-down if a law enforcement officer feels that its necessary for his/her own protection.
I don't care if I'm riding a train, a bus, a bicycle, driving my car down the street, or walking through the park.
Jun 21, 2011, 2:50 pm
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I really have to wonder what these non-airport screenings are supposed to accomplish. Most everything that TSA disallows on aircraft is legal to possess in one form or another. I can (and from time to time do) keep a pocket knife in my pocket. When I scuba dive or snorkel, I bring a long a dive knife with a nice, sharp 6" blade. I have, on occasion, brought bags of fertilizer home from the garden store. I always have some kind of electronic device with me.
I will never, under any circumstances, allow an off-airport search of my car, my possessions or my person, without a warrant or without having presented probable cause to a law enforcement officer, other than, of course, permitting the required Terry pat-down if a law enforcement officer feels that its necessary for his/her own protection.
I don't care if I'm riding a train, a bus, a bicycle, driving my car down the street, or walking through the park.
I will never, under any circumstances, allow an off-airport search of my car, my possessions or my person, without a warrant or without having presented probable cause to a law enforcement officer, other than, of course, permitting the required Terry pat-down if a law enforcement officer feels that its necessary for his/her own protection.
I don't care if I'm riding a train, a bus, a bicycle, driving my car down the street, or walking through the park.
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Jun 21, 2011, 3:03 pm
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TSA was actually stopping semi trucks on public roads and searching them during their little war game exorcizes just last week. It's not something theoretical or hearsay, it is already happening.
Jun 21, 2011, 3:07 pm
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...I will never, under any circumstances, allow an off-airport search of my car, my possessions or my person, without a warrant or without having presented probable cause to a law enforcement officer, other than, of course, permitting the required Terry pat-down if a law enforcement officer feels that its necessary for his/her own protection.
I don't care if I'm riding a train, a bus, a bicycle, driving my car down the street, or walking through the park.
I don't care if I'm riding a train, a bus, a bicycle, driving my car down the street, or walking through the park.
These goons can go kiss my ***** if they think they have even a remote chance of searching me or my car outside of an airport sterile area - and that includes searches *at* the airport attempted outside of the sterile area.
Jun 21, 2011, 3:30 pm
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Jun 21, 2011, 4:00 pm
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The best part about the article cited here is it that was published by Mother Jones Magazine, a leading Left Wing magazine, and is linked to and being promoted by Drudge Report, a leading Right Wing news aggregation website.
I'd hope everyone, regardless of their political affiliation can at least feel some warm fuzziness over the fact that the activist elements at both ends of the political spectrum finally have one issue where they find common ground. The TSA would do well to note that. The Left AND the Right is pi#*ed off at them, NO ONE is happy with them, and the best they can claim is that some of the population in the center is still indifferent at this time. Although I'm getting the impression the TSA really doesn't care what the public thinks any more and will have to have public opinion shoved down their throats.
I'd hope everyone, regardless of their political affiliation can at least feel some warm fuzziness over the fact that the activist elements at both ends of the political spectrum finally have one issue where they find common ground. The TSA would do well to note that. The Left AND the Right is pi#*ed off at them, NO ONE is happy with them, and the best they can claim is that some of the population in the center is still indifferent at this time. Although I'm getting the impression the TSA really doesn't care what the public thinks any more and will have to have public opinion shoved down their throats.
Jun 21, 2011, 4:25 pm
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The best part about the article cited here is it that was published by Mother Jones Magazine, a leading Left Wing magazine, and is linked to and being promoted by Drudge Report, a leading Right Wing news aggregation website.
I'd hope everyone, regardless of their political affiliation can at least feel some warm fuzziness over the fact that the activist elements at both ends of the political spectrum finally have one issue where they find common ground. The TSA would do well to note that. The Left AND the Right is pi#*ed off at them, NO ONE is happy with them, and the best they can claim is that some of the population in the center is still indifferent at this time. Although I'm getting the impression the TSA really doesn't care what the public thinks any more and will have to have public opinion shoved down their throats.
I'd hope everyone, regardless of their political affiliation can at least feel some warm fuzziness over the fact that the activist elements at both ends of the political spectrum finally have one issue where they find common ground. The TSA would do well to note that. The Left AND the Right is pi#*ed off at them, NO ONE is happy with them, and the best they can claim is that some of the population in the center is still indifferent at this time. Although I'm getting the impression the TSA really doesn't care what the public thinks any more and will have to have public opinion shoved down their throats.
Jun 21, 2011, 5:56 pm
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...so they can hire more people and spend more money on shiny toys with blinkenlights that don't actually do anything useful for "security," but can easily be used to bypass constitutional restrictions on intrusive searches by calling them "administrative."
It should be pretty obvious by now that we're well past "if you don't like it, don't fly" and into "if you don't like it, don't leave your house."
The next step will be "if you don't like it, leave the United States and don't come back."
It should be pretty obvious by now that we're well past "if you don't like it, don't fly" and into "if you don't like it, don't leave your house."
The next step will be "if you don't like it, leave the United States and don't come back."
, this was tried during the 60's & 70's but the 'spression was: "My country, love it or leave it" and we all know how that worked out
Jun 21, 2011, 5:59 pm
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From last fall it has been my contention that there are two groups of people that support the TSA, select government employees and those that have not yet gotten all of the information.