Construction was done one night in the "basement" under the floor, the next day when the WTMD was turned on, it would no stop alarming. The only solution (it shut down 2 out of 4 lanes) was to set the sensitivity to a lower standard - which allows the possibility for even more metal to get through an ANY level of the body.
And you let people into the secure area that day, even with the WTMD set to such a low detection level? Isn't that a security risk???
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Thus, this is why I have seen people bring through cell phones, keys, knives, etc., in their pockets, at mid body level, that did not alarm the WTMD. So it is very possible that bullets can also get past a WTMD. You want to talk about facts, well, that is a fact. It can happen.
..and these items have been shown to bring down airplanes...when?
Thus, this is why I have seen people bring through cell phones, keys, knives, etc., in their pockets, at mid body level, that did not alarm the WTMD. So it is very possible that bullets can also get past a WTMD. You want to talk about facts, well, that is a fact. It can happen.
..and these items have been shown to bring down airplanes...when?
Even bullets are not a threat by themselves, unless you can throw them really, really hard.
Thus, this is why I have seen people bring through cell phones, keys, knives, etc., in their pockets, at mid body level, that did not alarm the WTMD. So it is very possible that bullets can also get past a WTMD. You want to talk about facts, well, that is a fact. It can happen.
..and these items have been shown to bring down airplanes...when?
Even bullets are not a threat by themselves, unless you can throw them really, really hard.
Thus, this is why I have seen people bring through cell phones, keys, knives, etc., in their pockets, at mid body level, that did not alarm the WTMD. So it is very possible that bullets can also get past a WTMD. You want to talk about facts, well, that is a fact. It can happen.
..and these items have been shown to bring down airplanes...when?
Even bullets are not a threat by themselves, unless you can throw them really, really hard.
And you let people into the secure area that day, even with the WTMD set to such a low detection level? Isn't that a security risk???
I don't think I ever got a response from SATTSO on my question. Were passengers allowed into the secure area, with the WTMD set to a lowered detection level?
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And you let people into the secure area that day, even with the WTMD set to such a low detection level? Isn't that a security risk???
TSA in SAN T1 last week let screeners into the sterile area by completely bypassing the WTMD and NoS. They walked to the side of the checkpoint, into the "private screening room" and out the other end. One I saw had a backpack that went in unscreened.
Yep, nothing to worry about there while crotches are being felt up, toothpaste taken, and shoes sniffed.
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I would much rather be inconvenienced than become another statistic.
Sorry, I'd rather take my (very small) chances on being a "statistic" than be hassled, inconvenienced, and put up with an atmosphere of manufactured fear while simply traveling about.
I'd also like to know why the shoe carnival and other nonsense isn't always forced on me overseas even when transiting or coming back to the US. Color me unimpressed about the "battle of shoeknife 2011"
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Why doesn't the rest of the world seem to have this shoe fetish?
Taking vacation with my wife a week or two ago, I was amused when she took off her sandals the first couple of European airport checkpoints we went through. Me, I sauntered on through (well, I did remove my belt given it *always* alarms; chalk that up to screening prophylaxis), at FRA, BRU, BCN, and AGP.
Why doesn't the rest of the world seem to have this shoe fetish?
The rest of the world realized that the James Bond movie with the villainess wielding shoe knives was pure fiction - TSA headquarters hasn't figured that out yet.
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The rest of the world realized that the James Bond movie with the villainess wielding shoe knives was pure fiction - TSA headquarters hasn't figured that out yet.
I just watched a video of a pregnant woman getting a frisk. She wasn't wearing shoes. At the end of the frisk (not sure why), the TSO had her sit down on a bench. The TSO then frisked her lower legs and the tops of her feet. The woman held her legs up, and the soles of her feet were visible to someone who chose to look, but the TSO didn't look or touch them.
Wow. She could have two of those deadly 'ceramic' knives that one (alleged) TSO poster is always on about on the soles of her feet.
Not the first time I've wondered about this. If you wear socks into the NoS and you shuffle (most folks don't seem to leap and dance into the checkpoint), you could have almost anything concealed on the bottom of your feet. If you don't alarm (and judging by this video, maybe even if you do), you could stroll through undetected.
For that matter, I read that the reason for taking off the shoes is because the WTMD can't reliably detect metal anomalies in the soles of the shoes. But it seems to me you could still (James Bond!) conceal non-metallics on the soles of your feet and walk through undetected.
Just seems kind of silly. We have one TSA posters (a good one!) who defends collar and neckline searches because James Bond and SEALS and Rangers can conceal deadly objects (apparently enough to take down a plane) in a collar. Other posters tried (!) to suggest that it was appropriate to pat down the torso of a little girl in thin clothing because she might have a 'sheet of plastic explosive' molded to her torso. And another (alleged) TSA representative goes on and on about the WTMD not detecting ceramic knives, the newest great threat to aviation security.
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TSA in SAN T1 last week let screeners into the sterile area by completely bypassing the WTMD and NoS. They walked to the side of the checkpoint, into the "private screening room" and out the other end. One I saw had a backpack that went in unscreened.
Yep, nothing to worry about there while crotches are being felt up, toothpaste taken, and shoes sniffed.
Until said TSO pulls out a piece and goes postal and shoots his boss where we will all collectively throw up at the TSA's bullsh!t public relations spin response
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