Arkia may halt flights to Denmark over security row.
Jun 26, 2011, 12:00 pm
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Arkia may halt flights to Denmark over security row.
Haaretz: Moves may come in light of Denmark's refusal to allow Israeli security personnel to perform security checks on passengers flying from Copenhagen to Tel Aviv on Arkia Airlines.
Moreover, Denmark is also opposed to the Israeli security guards holding weapons in Copenhagen Airport.
Am I right that the UK also doesn't allow ELAL staff to carry weapons, and supply instead armed police guards at Elal's check in?
Are there any other countries that ban Elal's security to carry weapons?
Moreover, Denmark is also opposed to the Israeli security guards holding weapons in Copenhagen Airport.
Am I right that the UK also doesn't allow ELAL staff to carry weapons, and supply instead armed police guards at Elal's check in?
Are there any other countries that ban Elal's security to carry weapons?
Jun 26, 2011, 12:23 pm
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This is a common policy - the Shabak won't authorise the flights, which means they have to be stopped immediately. Similar things happened in Turkey a few years ago (long before the current diplomatic crisis by the way), when the Turkish authorities revoked the security guards' permissions to carry weapons - El Al cancelled it's route to IST within hours, leaving hundreds of passengers stranded and dependent on Turkish charter flights...
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...cerns-1.126344
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...cerns-1.126344
Jun 26, 2011, 3:58 pm
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In the UK, the ELAL staff aren't armed at the airports. However, the sky-marshals working for ELAL do have weapons, which are securely locked away until they are onboard the aircraft - they do not have permission to carry in the terminals at all.
Jun 26, 2011, 4:51 pm
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I don't think that it's possible for any country to ban the weapons on the aircraft, as the aircraft is considered as the country where it's registered, neither can they board the aircraft to make an arrest without approval (we all remember when an Israeli official was advised not to disembark at Heathrow as he would be arrested if he did so).
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Jun 26, 2011, 10:18 pm
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I don't think that it's possible for any country to ban the weapons on the aircraft, as the aircraft is considered as the country where it's registered, neither can they board the aircraft to make an arrest without approval (we all remember when an Israeli official was advised not to disembark at Heathrow as he would be arrested if he does so).
)Not so sure about that. When the FBI arrested the attempted Times Sqaure bomber, they arrested him on board an EK flight on the tarmac at JFK, waiting for takeoff. I don't believe they had permission from the UAE
Jun 27, 2011, 2:55 am
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I don't think that it's possible for any country to ban the weapons on the aircraft, as the aircraft is considered as the country where it's registered, neither can they board the aircraft to make an arrest without approval (we all remember when an Israeli official was advised not to disembark at Heathrow as he would be arrested if he did so).
Pax incoming haven't yet stepped onto the 'host' soil, and therefore by staying on the aircraft, they are still within the plane's country of jurisdiction
However, pax leaving a country can, within certain circumstances, be 'followed and removed' from an aircraft, before it has taken off, as it's only once the plane doors have been shut, and the plane starting to taxi, that it's considered its own jurisdiction (again, not so easy to explain, and it gets complicated).