TP A330 & A343 Executive / business class seating notes, discussion
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TP A330 & A343 Executive / business class seating notes, discussion
Its seems on the 16 active A330 TP aircraft only 2 (CS-TOT and CS-TOS) have real lie flat seats, the rest has the Recaro CL6510 (the slippery slope so not loved by Lufthansa pax in 2003-14).
http://www.flytap.com/Deutschland/en...cutive/Comfort
http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/T...20Portugal.htm
The 4 A343 aircraft have an even more ancient version, but these aircraft are not the backbone of the fleet and see infrequent action, probably on their way out when the A330-900 neos arrive in late 2017.
Has TP announced any retrofits of the A332 fleet?
http://www.flytap.com/Deutschland/en...cutive/Comfort
http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/T...20Portugal.htm
The 4 A343 aircraft have an even more ancient version, but these aircraft are not the backbone of the fleet and see infrequent action, probably on their way out when the A330-900 neos arrive in late 2017.
Has TP announced any retrofits of the A332 fleet?
#2
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Yes, TAP will retrofit seven A330. Link below.
https://thedesignair.net/2016/10/05/...s-class-seats/
https://thedesignair.net/2016/10/05/...s-class-seats/
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The programme is due to start in in a few days for the A320 Family fleet and in 1Q17 for the A330ceo fleet. All the cabin modifications will be completed by the end of 2017
That means they will have two A330 aircraft with Sogerma Solstys seats, 7 A330 with Thompson Vantage, 9 A330 with Recaro CL 6510, and 14 A330neo with Recaro CL 6710.
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Yesterday I took the plunge and booked TP to GRU and back from CNF in March. 343 out 332 back, both with the Recaro 6510. Yay!
One would assume that being the same seats as the former LH edition they also have the magic button to make them fully flat using the manual pulleys?
One would assume that being the same seats as the former LH edition they also have the magic button to make them fully flat using the manual pulleys?
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The A343's are used as much as the A332's mainly on the LAD, GIG, GRU and MPM routes, and have the same Recaro CL6510 seats. They should be the first to be replaced by the A339's.
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First A332 (CS-TOL) has the new seats already.
full TP press release
First of seven to be done by year end
full TP press release
First of seven to be done by year end
First TAP A330 with renewed cabin and full flat seats is flying
•Fully reclining seats in Executive class – full flat;
•New configuration, more seats, greater comfort;
•TAP has invested 70 million euro in the fleet update program;
The A330 named João Gonçalves Zarco is now operating with a completely renewed cabin. This is the first of seven A330s that will have gone through this fleet update program by the end of the year.
•Fully reclining seats in Executive class – full flat;
•New configuration, more seats, greater comfort;
•TAP has invested 70 million euro in the fleet update program;
The A330 named João Gonçalves Zarco is now operating with a completely renewed cabin. This is the first of seven A330s that will have gone through this fleet update program by the end of the year.
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I see first flight was to MIA
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/cs-tol
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/cs-tol
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I emailed TAP to ask about YYZ - LIS later this year, and received this reply. However, based on what I have read in this thread, I am skeptical...
The aircraft that operates the Lisbon-Toronto-Lisbon flights have lie-flat seats.
Should you require assistance with creating your reservation, please contact our call center at 1 800 221 7370.
Kind regards,
The aircraft that operates the Lisbon-Toronto-Lisbon flights have lie-flat seats.
Should you require assistance with creating your reservation, please contact our call center at 1 800 221 7370.
Kind regards,
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I emailed TAP to ask about YYZ - LIS later this year, and received this reply. However, based on what I have read in this thread, I am skeptical...
The aircraft that operates the Lisbon-Toronto-Lisbon flights have lie-flat seats.
Should you require assistance with creating your reservation, please contact our call center at 1 800 221 7370.
Kind regards,
The aircraft that operates the Lisbon-Toronto-Lisbon flights have lie-flat seats.
Should you require assistance with creating your reservation, please contact our call center at 1 800 221 7370.
Kind regards,
Getting a full flat is only guaranteed once the fleet is all upgraded.
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A video about the retrofit:
The seven retrofitted planes (CS-TOL to -TOR) will be primarily deployed not only to the US and Canadian markets, but also to GRU and GIG - which are considered to be the premium markets in TP's long-haul network.
The seven retrofitted planes (CS-TOL to -TOR) will be primarily deployed not only to the US and Canadian markets, but also to GRU and GIG - which are considered to be the premium markets in TP's long-haul network.
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The seven retrofitted planes (CS-TOL to -TOR) will be primarily deployed not only to the US and Canadian markets, but also to GRU and GIG - which are considered to be the premium markets in TP's long-haul network.
I have a great interest in this schedule, because, as far as I know, to my hometown here in Brazil (Porto Alegre, IATA Code POA), TAP can only fly with the A332s from CS-TOL to CS-TOR (the ones with GE engines; "I think" the main reason is that POA airport has a short runway, or so I've heard when the route was open in 2011).
Someone can also confirm this information about the TAP aircrafts to POA? Because if yes, that means that these retrofitted A332 will also be available to POA, not only GIG and GRU in South America...
I've flown several times with TAP in this route (POA - LIS and LIS - POA, TP118 and TP117), but only in Economy, and it was always with CS-TOL to CS-TOP (I flew on all these five A332). I know that CS-TOQ and CS-TOR also run these flights, but never happened to me to fly on them.
Now I am interested in this new business product. I will soon book again a new round trip to Europe, but not sure about the dates yet, but for sure after October 2017 or before the end of February 2018 (just waiting to check my new vaccation period availability).
If I can be sure that these retrofitted aircrafts would be available for LIS/POA after October, I would much prefer to book with TAP, just to avoid a connection at GRU and begin the travel early in the morning.
Otherwise, I would go for LH, even with that GRU connection.
Last edited by criske; Mar 13, 2017 at 12:09 am
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POA /TP117-8 sees all kind of A332: (OO, OP, OQ the last three days)
https://www.flightradar24.com/flight/tp118
TP has PW and GE engines on their A332 (former SR and OS aircraft have the PW engines), more details here: http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/T...ctive-a330.htm (the A330-2xx gives a hint that a different type is fitted)
https://www.flightradar24.com/flight/tp118
TP has PW and GE engines on their A332 (former SR and OS aircraft have the PW engines), more details here: http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/T...ctive-a330.htm (the A330-2xx gives a hint that a different type is fitted)