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clbencemunns:
Thanks for compiling this! I just wanted to add some information about UA.
The change fee is $150. Once the ticket is purchased, the initial change can be done online at united.com Bring up your itinerary, select "Change Itinerary", select the flights you want, and it will give you an option to have a paper voucher mailed to you. I received it about a week later. Once this initial change is done, and you have the paper voucher, I would recommend doing the remainder of your ticketing at the airport.
On a side note: Can we try to keep this thread on track of adding information to the wiki? I would suggest people with questions or looking for flight routings post to the flight redemption thread.
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Originally Posted by iahphx
Thanks for putting "the process" all in one place. The only step missing from this analysis is getting the "fixed flight" option for your Thank You Points. I recall reading some threads that suggested I needed to get certain specific Citi credit cards that offer this option, and then link my other TY accounts. But I also recall reading somewhere that all I need is an Expedia account. Can someone steer me in the right direction on this? Thanks.
Good call! People who do not have a PremierPass card, Chairman card, citbank account or SmithBarney account should register for an expedia.com account and add it to their TYP account PRIOR to calling TYN. This can all be done in the same day. See the link below for reference:
To the OP - thanks so much for detailing the process for those of us who are not at all experienced in the redemption...you have made it so clear and easy! I have been saving my TYP for a long time and knew about the devaluation but I never knew about the benefit of the business class redemption before so THANKS to all you for telling those of newbies ecause I was going to redeem for several 25K tickets.
Before I pull the trigger and make a big mistake I was to get your input: I have checked Expedia and am going to purchase a ticket on AA from MIA - LAX valued at $2863 called a V Fare in the rules & restrictions, but I read this am am worried about the "full refund" statement as opposed to them giving me a voucher that I can use to purcahse the 3 tickets I really WANT to use.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
CHANGES ARE PERMITTED PROVIDED APPLICABLE
INVENTORY IS AVAILABLE. OTHERWISE/ TICKET MUST
BE EXCHANGED FOR ANOTHER FARE. FULL REFUND WILL BE
MADE FOR WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS.
FOR PARTIALLY USED TICKETS/ THE REFUND WILL BE THE
AMT PAID MINUS THE NORMAL ONE WAY FARE APPLICABLE
TO THE TRANSPORTATION USED.
What do you all think??? I don't travel much so I have no experience with this type of thing...I am hoping to get 3 tickets to Yellowstone out of this?
1.> I asked earlier for CO fares out of EWR, but some of you suggested that if I am going to cancel then there is no need to be out of EWR only. Thats correct.
2.> I checked many Business class fare on Continental, but in expedia terms and conditions, they show up as refundable. I guess then in case of cancellation, the credit will go back to TYN. Correct ? Or can I still ask CO to give me a voucher instead of giving the credit back to TYN ? Also those business classs fares were about 1600. I could not find 2700. This was for NYC to SFO. I checked multiple dates.
3. > I am searching some fares from EWR to BOM and got some fares for 1800. I will need 80000+20000 TYP (As asia fares are upto $1600 for 80000 points) and additional $50 costs 5000 TYPs. I saw terms and conditions and it says
"FULL VALUE OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE
APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW FARE OF EQUAL OR GREATER VALUE UPON PAYMENT OF THE
CHANGE FEE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS RULE AND ANY
DIFFERENCE IN FARE.
THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
NON-REFUNDABLE AND MUST BE CARRIED FORWARD
TO THE ENDORSEMENT BOX OF THE NEW
This clause of "equal or greater" is confusing. So if I buy a ticket of $1800. But later I cancel it, i will have to pay $250 in cancellation fees, so my credit will be $1550. So does my new fare have to be more than $1800 again ?
Good call! People who do not have a PremierPass card, Chairman card, citbank account or SmithBarney account should register for an expedia.com account and add it to their TYP account PRIOR to calling TYN.
OK, to clarify this --
What exactly is an "Expedia account"? Probably like most flyertalkers, I occasionally make purchases through Expedia and have a user name and password with them. Is that an "account" for this purpose? I don't think it has a number of anything. What do I tell the TYN folks?
Once I straighten that out, do I just call the TYN and "consolidate" all my TYN points into one account? And if I still need more points to quickly reach the 90.000 threshold, which are the best cards for sign-up bonuses? It would seem that there would still be "one shot" here to get a card approved and the billing cycle to post in time for the deadline. Obviously, time is of the essence for anyone wishing to do this.
Thanks for the info, and once we get these questions answered, perhaps we can put it in the wiki.
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2.> I checked many Business class fare on Continental, but in expedia terms and conditions, they show up as refundable. I guess then in case of cancellation, the credit will go back to TYN. Correct ? Or can I still ask CO to give me a voucher instead of giving the credit back to TYN ? Also those business classs fares were about 1600. I could not find 2700. This was for NYC to SFO. I checked multiple dates.
If you cancel a non-refundable ticket on CO the penalty has to come from new money. So, if you have a $1500 non-refundable ticket and you want to change it and pay a $150 change fee you must *pay* $150. You can perform the change on the CO web site, but it defaults to refunding to the original form of payment. There is a box to refund to a CO ETC (Electronic Travel Certificate). Make sure to use it, or to specify that that is what you want if you speak to an agent!
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This clause of "equal or greater" is confusing. So if I buy a ticket of $1800. But later I cancel it, i will have to pay $250 in cancellation fees, so my credit will be $1550. So does my new fare have to be more than $1800 again ?
If you have an $1800 CO ticket with a $250 cancellation fee, you must pay the $250 to get the $1800 credit.
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Does anyone know if purchased points get added into the "purchase points' bucket?
I'm trying to figure out if it is worth it to pay the $500 for 20K points, if that would release the 18K I have sitting in "flight points" that currently cannot be transferred.
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Does anyone know if purchased points get added into the "purchase points' bucket?
I'm trying to figure out if it is worth it to pay the $500 for 20K points, if that would release the 18K I have sitting in "flight points" that currently cannot be transferred.
No. If you want to match flight points, you need purchase points in your credit card accounts (PP Elite). Having "purchased" points in your thankyou account will not match flight points in your separate credit card account.
I have 180k points, so can I just buy one business class ticket for $5,400, pay one set of taxes, pay one change fee, and then use the voucher to buy tickets for myself and my family?
Is there any airline on which this is allowed? I can't seem to find the terms and conditions of the travel vouchers anywhere.
By the way, I found a site for a December 2008 summary of non-refundable ticket exhange policies, if this helps anyone. It didn't answer my specific question, however...
(sorry if this is not a link, I don't know how to make that happen)
Could some one direct me to where I could get a list of non-refundable fare codes. Also, are the codes the same for all air lines or is each one different? Thanks for any help !!!!
2.> I checked many Business class fare on Continental, but in expedia terms and conditions, they show up as refundable. I guess then in case of cancellation, the credit will go back to TYN. Correct ? Or can I still ask CO to give me a voucher instead of giving the credit back to TYN ? Also those business classs fares were about 1600. I could not find 2700. This was for NYC to SFO. I checked multiple dates.
There is an option on CO that now you can choose a CO e-cert when cancelling a refundable ticket. However, no one has reported trying it. Either you are willing to take this risk or you look for a non-refundable fare.
Try to look at MidCon with small airport instead of TransCon itinerary - the Coast to Coast routings often are much cheaper than a routing that is from Central part of the country. Try SLC, DEN, AND holiday periods. Dates often are just as important as the routings.
3. > I am searching some fares from EWR to BOM and got some fares for 1800. I will need 80000+20000 TYP (As asia fares are upto $1600 for 80000 points) and additional $50 costs 5000 TYPs. I saw terms and conditions and it says
"FULL VALUE OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE
APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW FARE OF EQUAL OR GREATER VALUE UPON PAYMENT OF THE
CHANGE FEE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS RULE AND ANY
DIFFERENCE IN FARE.
THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
NON-REFUNDABLE AND MUST BE CARRIED FORWARD
TO THE ENDORSEMENT BOX OF THE NEW
Why would you even want to get a 80K for $1,600 with a HIGHER ticket change fee? This would make your 10K (the 90K - 80K) value at $900 to leave on the table, plus you will pay HIGHER fee which CO would need to be paid SEPARATELY by CC, cannot be deducted from the ticket value.
Also, is the itinery solely on CO metals or some code-shares? You dont want a ticket that involves an airline that may cause the need for a Paper Ticket, Also CO will leave SkyTeam later this year, so you would be much better off to stick to CO's metal ONLY.
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[/b]]iahphx;11020849]OK, to clarify this --
What exactly is an "Expedia account"? Probably like most flyertalkers, I occasionally make purchases through Expedia and have a user name and password with them. Is that an "account" for this purpose? I don't think it has a number of anything. What do I tell the TYN folks?
That is your Expedia account. There is an option to link your existing TYN account to your Expedia account on the Expedia page. If your Expedia account is active, it should show up as a sponsor account in your TYN account. Else, you may need to do some trick to make it show up.
The detailed steps are listed by a poster in the Original Devaluation thread, back in 2007, probably around Apr and May. Do a search to find it.
Once I straighten that out, do I just call the TYN and "consolidate" all my TYN points into one account?
You can. But there are Add Sponsor Account function on TYN site. You can do it yourself.
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SeeYa[/b];11021351]Does anyone know if purchased points get added into the "purchase points' bucket?
I'm trying to figure out if it is worth it to pay the $500 for 20K points, if that would release the 18K I have sitting in "flight points" that currently cannot be transferred.
If you use your PPE to purchase the 20K pts, the cost of $500 become your purchase points, and release 500 flight point. So you gain an additional 2 x 500 pts from the PPE card, on top of the 20K TYP your purchased. I am not sure $500 OUT OF POCKET upfront money is worth it - because now your $2700 is only 2700 - 500 - 150 = $2050, plus any taxes you paid separately out of pocket (your own money).
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faciar[/b];11021529]
I have 180k points, so can I just buy one business class ticket for $5,400, pay one set of taxes, pay one change fee, and then use the voucher to buy tickets for myself and my family?
No. You have to buy 2 tickets. The table of points level and Value CAP has been posted multiple times on this forum, as well as in the FAQ of Reward / Travel on TYN.
You will be much better off to UNDERSTAND the rules before you jump into this, and then mess it up.
Is there any airline on which this is allowed? I can't seem to find the terms and conditions of the travel vouchers anywhere.
There is NO terms and conditions of the travel vouchers if you are talking about TYN - because there is NO travel vouchers issued by TYN.
You can redeem your TYP for any airline's ticket, but as posted multiple times on many TYP related threads, EACH AIRLINE HAS ITS OWN POLICY REGARDING RESIDUAL VALUE FROM CANCELLED TICKETS. Some are easy to use some are not. Some requires you use the full value all at one purchase, and for the original passenger ONLY, such as AS.
Please understand the TYN Reward/Travel redemption rules by reading the FAQ on TYN site.
Also please make sure you understand the policy of your targeted airline by calling the reservation dept to find out the nuiances. You will be much better off to get the details directly from the airline, then from some travel website which may or may not be fully up-todate.
Whew, I hope people would spend some time to read the Old Devaluation Thread instead of asking all the questions that have been answered many many times.
Some people dont even bother to read the FAQ of TYP fixed points redemption right on TYN site...
So when I find my $4,200 flight to Hawaii ( open to suggestions on that), on Delta. can I request Delta to Expedia , or might they put me on another carrier , if it saves them some money. Must I find a route where Delta is the cheapest or only option. Or can I demand Delta?
Orbits I pick my airline.
Priceline I might take pot luck.
So when I find my $4,200 flight to Hawaii ( open to suggestions on that), on Delta. can I request Delta to Expedia , or might they put me on another carrier , if it saves them some money. Must I find a route where Delta is the cheapest or only option. Or can I demand Delta?
Orbits I pick my airline.
Priceline I might take pot luck.
When you call TYN to book the flights, you can give them specific airlines and flight numbers if you wish.
I just wanted to add some information about UA.
