If I transit thru PEK or PVG to TPE without a visa,will they send me
back on flight ?
The mileage-redeemed ticket is also a CONFIRMED ticket.right ?
What is the English name for the special passport that Taiwanese citizen
uses to go to China ?
My point is :
Leaving from EWR to PEK / PVG on CO,I can use USA passport and then
land in China with the special passport,is it a legal entry ?
Then,can I take the direct flight to Taiwan with the Taiwanese passport ?
If I fly to China with the special passport,can I then connect to USA using
the USA passport AND listed as employee standby status ? I will be sent back to Taiwan,right ?
If anyone knows the answer,please let me know.
Thank you
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The visa issue has been discussed at length. Short answer, yes for transit so long as you have proof of continuing flight/s. Search this forum for details.
Your carrier will request for and check your passport to verify you can enter the country of your final destination. If you have completely separate PNRs and CO has no indication that you are going beyond PEK/PVG, they will probably not allow boarding unless you show proof you're just in transit. Of course, your experience will depend on the TA checking you in or the GA inspecting docs. Some are very knowledgeable, others not so much, some are stricter than Gulag wardens, others are just plain nice.
He wants to use his ROC passport to qualify him for the direct flights, but his US passport for EWR-PEK and vv. I actually know someone who ran into quite a bit of grief from the PVG entry people because he accidentally let them catch sight of his US passport (in addition to his HK ID, which he wanted them to see), but this was the only time he's ever slipped and the only time he's ever been busted.
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Strongly suggest you use one passport to transit in PEK/PVG. If you use US passport to PEK/PVG and leave with your Special Permit (SP) for RoC, it will mean your SP has no entry record, only departure record.
This is not a easy question to answer in PEK/PVG immigration. Even if you successfully fly to Taiwan, I will expect you have a big trouble when you return.
My question is: why you bother to use different passports to do this transit? Have I miss something here? Is there any extra benefit for doing this?
because my USA passport has a crew visa,china wont give us multi-entry
if we hold a crew visa in our USA passport.That is why I want to use the permit to land in china and go to taiwan.
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Originally Posted by AirDude
because my USA passport has a crew visa,china wont give us multi-entry
if we hold a crew visa in our USA passport.That is why I want to use the permit to land in china and go to taiwan.
The trouble is if you use your USA passport to land in PEK/PVG, you are not officially there to start to use your Taiwan Special Permit, becasue you haven't got a entry record on that one, how can you leave with it?
Thank carefully, if I am you, I won't risk that. Although they are very friendly to Taiwaness, but on these cases, they are not that flexible.
Interesting discussion. To echo the other posters, in many countries, you'll be in a very sticky situation if you passport does not have corresponding entry/exit stamp pairs.
Sorry if I'm way off track here but if it's just transit, why all the trouble? AFAIK, so long as you have onward travel documents, a visa is not necessary for transit. Of course, there have been random issues in the past but most of the time, it works out. So if it's just transit in the airport, why expose yourself to risk of trouble with China's immigration authorities? Show US passport each time, wander around the airport and fly out.
I think he was worried about the fact that, in the past, cross straights flights have been restricted to PRC/ROC nationals. IINM this is no longer the case. And, even if it was, the China passport people could care less about this issue (between you and the onward airline).
OK, I had to read this thread a couple of times and the posts by AirDude even more. (And note, I said I figured out his situation, not the solution) Anyway, I think what's happening is the following:
AirDude is holding a CO staff standby ticket (EWR → PEK/PVG → EWR), and is travelling after March 26th 2009.
He also has a 2nd ticket positive space (PVG/PEK → TPE → PEK/PVG).
He holds USA & ROC citizenship.
He needs to enter PRC twice and ideally wanted a multi-entry visa in his USA passport. PRC will not grant him the multi-entry visa since the passport also holds a crew visa.
On the return back to EWR, he is presently unable to utilize TWOV since the PVG/PEK to EWR is not a confirmed ticket.
I'll stop here and await AirDude's verification of the above facts.
OK, I had to read this thread a couple of times and the posts by AirDude even more. (And note, I said I figured out his situation, not the solution) Anyway, I think what's happening is the following:
AirDude is holding a CO staff standby ticket (EWR → PEK/PVG → EWR), and is travelling after March 26th 2009.
He also has a 2nd ticket positive space (PVG/PEK → TPE → PEK/PVG).
He holds USA & ROC citizenship.
He needs to enter PRC twice and ideally wanted a multi-entry visa in his USA passport. PRC will not grant him the multi-entry visa since the passport also holds a crew visa.
On the return back to EWR, he is presently unable to utilize TWOV since the PVG/PEK to EWR is not a confirmed ticket.
I'll stop here and await AirDude's verification of the above facts.
Hello
To depart from EWR I will have to show the gate agent that I have the legal permit to LAND in
PEK / PVG.China only cares what I use to ENTER China,they dont care what passport I use to LEAVE China.
I think,if I can legally use the Taiwanese citizen permit to ENTER china,then no matter I hold a confirm
ticket or a standby ticket,I can still go onward toTaiwan.
If I want to transfer to Taiwan with my USA passport,I will have to hold a CONFIRMED onward ticket.
But leaving from Taiwan to CHINA using the Taiwanese citizen permit to ENTER china and to connect to
my CO flight with my USA passport,I think it is not possible because :
1) I have to use one passport to go in and out of China.
2) PEK / PVG - EWR is on standby,therefore I wont be able to LEAVE China
with 2 different passports.
3) Once u have a USA passport,u wont have a green card to ENTER USA because China immigration
will ask " Where is your green card " if I try to LEAVE China with the Taiwanese passport.
But the solution is : I wont do try to do this because everytime I want to go to China I still need to get
a visa.They only give 1 year multi-entry to those working in China.
Looks like I am answering myself ? haha....because I have already asked my friedns living there.
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As been discussed many times already, getting a one-year or even two-year multiple entry visa to China is not a difficult thing in northern america. At least it's much easier than in the Europe.
It seems you are creating such a complex situation for yourself, which you can sort it out easily by applying a two-year multiple visa to China if you have had a one-year multiple before.
As been discussed many times already, getting a one-year or even two-year multiple entry visa to China is not a difficult thing in northern america. At least it's much easier than in the Europe.
The OP already stated that due to his PRC Crew Visa in his USA passport, that the PRC will not issue a multi-entry visa (see post #5).
To AirDude: Why don't you just fly via HKG and use your USA passport instead of transitting PEK/PVG?
Transit without visa in PEK or PVG
) Anyway, I think what's happening is the following:
