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Old Jul 30, 2015, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Doc Savage
I suspect that very little debris will ever be found washed up anywhere, so the location of this piece really doesn't narrow down the crash site much.

The fact that nothing was found in south Australia or Tasmania really means nothing. The lack of evidence is not evidence.
I broadly agree with that. Just exploring things as they cross my mind...

I wonder if anything was found on shorelines from the French Airbus that crashed in the Atlantic. If debris reached shore somewhere it would give a hint as to how much flotsam leaves an aircraft that is presumably intact until sea level.
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Old Jul 30, 2015, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by EsherFlyer
I wonder if anything was found on shorelines from the French Airbus that crashed in the Atlantic. If debris reached shore somewhere it would give a hint as to how much flotsam leaves an aircraft that is presumably intact until sea level.
In that case the debris was retrieved at sea in the days after the crash. Small items may have been overlooked, but they they would also have been hard to identify months later as have come from AF 447.
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Old Jul 31, 2015, 10:01 am
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"Members of the same clean-up association found a piece of torn luggage on Thursday, and on Friday discovered a detergent bottle with Indonesian markings and a bottle of Chinese-branded mineral water"
http://news.yahoo.com/australia-incr...031717894.html
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Old Jul 31, 2015, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by jk88usa
Agreed it does that...but honestly besides the 5% of people who've believed that all along...it doesn't do much. It will bring some, albeit tragic, closure to the families, but there's still a lot to be had until they find the entire plane/cause itself.

And, while satellite data did suggest the Indian Ocean now everybody is going to question just how accurate it was on where it went down...
While I don't believe in the conspiracy theory with this plane, one could always kidnap the plane, remove a flaperon, and dump it as false evidence.

(Of course one would then need to find a replacement flaperon, but seeing how all kinds of illegal objects can be obtained a flaperon should no make a huge obstacle)
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Old Jul 31, 2015, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by nsx
In that case the debris was retrieved at sea in the days after the crash. Small items may have been overlooked, but they they would also have been hard to identify months later as have come from AF 447.
Any idea how much was collected? I'm trying to gauge how much might be in the ocean from MH370. If there are a large number of items that are distinguishable from boat passenger jetsam then a reasonable number might come ashore. If there were only a few it will be far 'luckier' as and when they turn up .
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Old Jul 31, 2015, 5:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Doitsu
While I don't believe in the conspiracy theory with this plane, one could always kidnap the plane, remove a flaperon, and dump it as false evidence.
How do you ensure the "false evidence" stays at sea long enough to collect all those barnacles?

Methinks you've been watching waaaay too much TV.
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Old Aug 2, 2015, 5:05 am
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My WSJ news feed just popped up saying they also found an airplane door but I couldn't find an article/info anywhere. Anybody see that?
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Old Aug 2, 2015, 5:44 am
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My WSJ news feed just popped up saying they also found an airplane door but I couldn't find an article/info anywhere. Anybody see that?
This one:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/airplane...and-1438507358
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Old Aug 2, 2015, 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by AA4013
I hate WSJ links....one of those that makes you subscribe ( and pay!) to read their articles.

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Old Aug 2, 2015, 7:25 am
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The newly fund object said to possibly be from a door can be seen here:



The picture was found on this page: https://twitter.com/a_forestier/stat...575168/photo/1
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Old Aug 2, 2015, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy
The picture was found on this page: https://twitter.com/a_forestier/stat...575168/photo/1
Following links back from there leads to close up of markings on metal that have been referred to. Click right image to show :

https://twitter.com/Lustucrew/status...588736/photo/1

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Old Aug 2, 2015, 8:06 am
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With so much debris popping up in/around Reunion, and it's likely they'll find much more...they really need to narrow the search area based on simulations.

Right now there are highly isolated tracks/paths that allow debris to reach Reunion but if more and more keeps popping up would it be unreasonable to sort of carve out a more likely origin area, probably further west? Especially if they continue to find nothing in the presumed search area.

Just my two cents....because so far this is the only place it's washing up, and it was predicted to be one of the last places any few fragments would
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Old Aug 2, 2015, 8:20 am
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Not from MH370

They are reporting it is a generic ladder.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...lity/31014241/
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Old Aug 2, 2015, 10:13 am
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Does this give any credence to the possibility the Madivians really did see the plane fly by?
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Old Aug 2, 2015, 9:42 pm
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Originally Posted by jk88usa
With so much debris popping up in/around Reunion, and it's likely they'll find much more...they really need to narrow the search area based on simulations.

Right now there are highly isolated tracks/paths that allow debris to reach Reunion but if more and more keeps popping up would it be unreasonable to sort of carve out a more likely origin area, probably further west? Especially if they continue to find nothing in the presumed search area.

Just my two cents....because so far this is the only place it's washing up, and it was predicted to be one of the last places any few fragments would
While I don't necessarily disagree, I wouldn't be too reliant on the reverse drift modelling from debris found in one location - didn't the initial modelling they did on the AF447 debris (found just 5 days after the aircraft was lost) have them searching in the wrong location initially?

What they really need is a few more points of reference. Though anything that can help them find answers for the families of those aboard is a good thing.
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