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MH370 Discussion and Speculation Thread
#1801
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 339
Guy on FlightAware says he's matched the number/letters they found that the authorities read out to a maintenance manual for the 777....which means IF that's true then this is a huge lead
Does anybody know the number they read off, I saw it somewhere or maybe heard it on TV, but I can't remember where and I'm just trying to "fact check" if that's true...I wanna say it was "BB###" but I honestly can't definitively say...sorry for asking if I'm wrong
EDIT: Found it #BB670...
Does anybody know the number they read off, I saw it somewhere or maybe heard it on TV, but I can't remember where and I'm just trying to "fact check" if that's true...I wanna say it was "BB###" but I honestly can't definitively say...sorry for asking if I'm wrong
EDIT: Found it #BB670...
#1802
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 339
OK....BB670 checks out to a part number on the rear right aileron of the Boeing 777 maintenance guide....Wing Trailing Edge Flap Part...big lead for sure
Maintenance/Part Guide:
http://en.calameo.com/read/0003162864c5d46c7d25f
Look on Page 222 (of the actual guide)
Maintenance/Part Guide:
http://en.calameo.com/read/0003162864c5d46c7d25f
Look on Page 222 (of the actual guide)
#1803
Join Date: May 2001
Location: TYO
Posts: 1,496
Guy on FlightAware says he's matched the number/letters they found that the authorities read out to a maintenance manual for the 777....which means IF that's true then this is a huge lead
Does anybody know the number they read off, I saw it somewhere or maybe heard it on TV, but I can't remember where and I'm just trying to "fact check" if that's true...I wanna say it was "BB###" but I honestly can't definitively say...sorry for asking if I'm wrong
EDIT: Found it #BB670...
Does anybody know the number they read off, I saw it somewhere or maybe heard it on TV, but I can't remember where and I'm just trying to "fact check" if that's true...I wanna say it was "BB###" but I honestly can't definitively say...sorry for asking if I'm wrong
EDIT: Found it #BB670...
It's probably "FLAP ASSY-OUTBD TE"
#1805
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#1806
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#1807
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 339
Ok...possible...but I'm looking at a PDF version of the maintenance/part guide on the internet...and 670 is in there as a Right Flap part
#1808
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#1809
Join Date: Jul 2014
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EDIT: Ok...access panel references it is...I still have a hunch that's linked
#1811
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OK....BB670 checks out to a part number on the rear right aileron of the Boeing 777 maintenance guide....Wing Trailing Edge Flap Part...big lead for sure
Maintenance/Part Guide:
http://en.calameo.com/read/0003162864c5d46c7d25f
Look on Page 222 (of the actual guide)
Maintenance/Part Guide:
http://en.calameo.com/read/0003162864c5d46c7d25f
Look on Page 222 (of the actual guide)
#1812
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 339
Thanks for clarifying...sorry to get so rushed. Do they print those on parts b/c why else would the authorities come out with that number?
#1813
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Also BB670 was reported by the local french newspaper and then the UK ones so it's possible it was 670BB and they just mixed it up?
#1814
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#1815
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 21
I work for an aftermarket parts supplier who tears down all aircraft including B777's. I happen to work on the B777 product line.
Here are some pictures of a B777-200ER left hand Flaperon. This unit has been repaired. It is from a similar production line number as MH370.
PN 113W6100-9. I also have the right hand side flaperon, the -10
NOTE: The part number/ serial numbers ARE NOT ETCHED/STAMPED on the control surfaces. There is a DATA PLATE which is sometimes riveted, but often times, pressed on. This occurs after the unit has gone to a shop that updates the part number after adding an Service Bulletin and the shop simply "glues" the new data plate on.
It is very common for these data plates to fall
I cannot tell for certain if the part found is a B777, B747-200, or any other aircraft. Searching for a picture of a B747-200 flaperon.
Here are some pictures of a B777-200ER left hand Flaperon. This unit has been repaired. It is from a similar production line number as MH370.
PN 113W6100-9. I also have the right hand side flaperon, the -10
NOTE: The part number/ serial numbers ARE NOT ETCHED/STAMPED on the control surfaces. There is a DATA PLATE which is sometimes riveted, but often times, pressed on. This occurs after the unit has gone to a shop that updates the part number after adding an Service Bulletin and the shop simply "glues" the new data plate on.
It is very common for these data plates to fall
I cannot tell for certain if the part found is a B777, B747-200, or any other aircraft. Searching for a picture of a B747-200 flaperon.