May 24, 2013, 7:54 pm
Last edit by: coolfish1103
Google doc for China Airlines & Starlux Airlines
- 2017 China Airlines Network
- A document for Tigerair Taiwan (LCC) will soon be made.
Things to note:
Information may not be up-to-date and is only served as advice. It's best for one to call the airline or check the official website. This thread will only cover carriers not having their own forums operated from Taiwan (not China). It's recommended to read some recent discussions in this page or this section of the forum as they might not yet be updated.
Please visit EVA FT forum for information regards to EVA Air.
Miles Buzz
China Airlines (CI) - 中華航空
Subsidiary: Mandarin Airlines (AE) - 華信航空
Fare Family
- China Airlines has followed the steps of EVA Air adopting new fare system where you are charged depending on the booking class you purchase. Have a read: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/othe...y-br-v-ci.html and https://www.china-airlines.com/tw/en...ts/fare-family
Future destinations
- CI plans to operate Seattle from 15JUL24.
Mileage Upgrade no longer applicable to cheap tickets
- From July 2, 2020
You may only upgrade via miles with booking codes Y, B, M, K, Q, T, V for Economy and W, U, A for Premium Economy on all sectors.
Far Eastern Air Transport (FE) - 遠東航空
Ceased operation as of December 13, 2019.
STARLUX Airlines (JX) - 星宇航空
Future destinations
- JX plans to operate Seattle from 17AUG24.
New Lounge at Terminal 2
- First Class Lounge available for First Class passengers only (if not opting for HuanYu Terminal).
Fleet:
13x A321neo
11x A330-900neo (4 currently in service)
10x A350-900 (5 currently in service)
International Airport Gateways
TPE Taipei Taoyuan International Airport - 桃園國際機場
- 2017 China Airlines Network
- A document for Tigerair Taiwan (LCC) will soon be made.
Things to note:
Information may not be up-to-date and is only served as advice. It's best for one to call the airline or check the official website. This thread will only cover carriers not having their own forums operated from Taiwan (not China). It's recommended to read some recent discussions in this page or this section of the forum as they might not yet be updated.
Please visit EVA FT forum for information regards to EVA Air.
Miles Buzz
China Airlines (CI) - 中華航空
Subsidiary: Mandarin Airlines (AE) - 華信航空
Fare Family
- China Airlines has followed the steps of EVA Air adopting new fare system where you are charged depending on the booking class you purchase. Have a read: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/othe...y-br-v-ci.html and https://www.china-airlines.com/tw/en...ts/fare-family
Future destinations
- CI plans to operate Seattle from 15JUL24.
Mileage Upgrade no longer applicable to cheap tickets
- From July 2, 2020
You may only upgrade via miles with booking codes Y, B, M, K, Q, T, V for Economy and W, U, A for Premium Economy on all sectors.
Far Eastern Air Transport (FE) - 遠東航空
Ceased operation as of December 13, 2019.
STARLUX Airlines (JX) - 星宇航空
Future destinations
- JX plans to operate Seattle from 17AUG24.
New Lounge at Terminal 2
- First Class Lounge available for First Class passengers only (if not opting for HuanYu Terminal).
Fleet:
13x A321neo
11x A330-900neo (4 currently in service)
10x A350-900 (5 currently in service)
International Airport Gateways
TPE Taipei Taoyuan International Airport - 桃園國際機場
Information for Airlines based in Taiwan
Jul 25, 2017, 1:00 pm
#646
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Jul 25, 2017, 10:37 pm
#647
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It certainly looks official, but I have never seen an airline use Google Forms for official surveys!
Jul 26, 2017, 7:49 pm
#649
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
Posts: 519
I mean, there's areas with Taiwanese populations for which ONT would be easier to get to than LAX, so it's not that weird.....
Jul 26, 2017, 8:16 pm
#650
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Jul 27, 2017, 9:35 am
#651
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Location: SAN
Posts: 1,171
The first time I saw the news about the visit to ONT, I came away with the impression that it might be more cargo focused, as in it might be China Airlines Cargo service rather than China Airlines passenger service, though this survey makes me think otherwise. ONT is a UPS hub and there's a fair amount of distribution warehouses and such in the area, so ONT as a more cargo-focused destination seemed reasonable.
Jul 27, 2017, 10:41 am
#652
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Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
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Jul 27, 2017, 11:28 am
#653
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Jul 27, 2017, 11:38 am
#654
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Location: New York, NY, USA
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Jul 27, 2017, 4:03 pm
#655
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Location: SFO/SJC/OAK
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Jul 27, 2017, 6:29 pm
#656
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Location: LAX
Programs: AA Plat, DL, AS, UA, IHG Plat
Posts: 2,404
The first time I saw the news about the visit to ONT, I came away with the impression that it might be more cargo focused, as in it might be China Airlines Cargo service rather than China Airlines passenger service, though this survey makes me think otherwise. ONT is a UPS hub and there's a fair amount of distribution warehouses and such in the area, so ONT as a more cargo-focused destination seemed reasonable.
)The air cargo consolidators, custom brokers, and freight forwarding business are all located at LAX or nearby in the Southbay area. ONT will be far out of the way for any airline cargo operation. This is the reason why LAWA was unsuccessful in convincing CI, BR, CX, SQ, KE, QF, KL etc to move cargo ops to ONT. It would be a severe competitive disadvantage to locate that far away when all your clients are near LAX.
UPS is different because it is its own consolidator and they don't handle third party freight. UPS mainly ships packages and letters so using ONT made sense for them because the airport has room for them to setup sorting operations.
Jul 27, 2017, 7:43 pm
#657
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 762
That's a common misconception about air cargo operation vs. distribution centers. They are not really related business. The only thing they have in common is that they both involves shipping stuff. The best analogy I can draw is this: Taco Bell is not really related to meat packing industry even though it sells tacos containing meat (supposedly... )
The air cargo consolidators, custom brokers, and freight forwarding business are all located at LAX or nearby in the Southbay area. ONT will be far out of the way for any airline cargo operation. This is the reason why LAWA was unsuccessful in convincing CI, BR, CX, SQ, KE, QF, KL etc to move cargo ops to ONT. It would be a severe competitive disadvantage to locate that far away when all your clients are near LAX.
UPS is different because it is its own consolidator and they don't handle third party freight. UPS mainly ships packages and letters so using ONT made sense for them because the airport has room for them to setup sorting operations.
)The air cargo consolidators, custom brokers, and freight forwarding business are all located at LAX or nearby in the Southbay area. ONT will be far out of the way for any airline cargo operation. This is the reason why LAWA was unsuccessful in convincing CI, BR, CX, SQ, KE, QF, KL etc to move cargo ops to ONT. It would be a severe competitive disadvantage to locate that far away when all your clients are near LAX.
UPS is different because it is its own consolidator and they don't handle third party freight. UPS mainly ships packages and letters so using ONT made sense for them because the airport has room for them to setup sorting operations.
Jul 29, 2017, 2:49 am
#658
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Location: CAN, LAX, TPE
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Posts: 2,895
CI LAX often uses google to do survey.
I don't think ONT will survive unless Ontario and San Bernardino continue to dump funds in. Customer base will be mainly VIP and Taiwanese who want to avoid LAX.
Aug 2, 2017, 2:35 pm
#659
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 246
According to aviation week, Chariman Ho will finalize order for narrowbody by this month
http://aviationweek.com/awincommerci...rrowbody-order
http://aviationweek.com/awincommerci...rrowbody-order
Aug 2, 2017, 10:20 pm
#660
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Location: SFO
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Posts: 1,926
CI has cut JFK to 4x a week. There will no longer be service on Friday(from TPE) and Saturday(From JFK). Reduction starts in October and includes S18.
Not surprising considering the news we had last month about this route!
CI and Mandarin are also downgauging 2 KHH routes.
2 of 3 daily KHH-HKG will be operated by 738 instead of A333 and KHH-HGH will now be all 738.
KHH-NRT will now be operated by A333 instead of 738.
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...rvice-changes/
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...from-oct-2017/
Not surprising considering the news we had last month about this route!
CI and Mandarin are also downgauging 2 KHH routes.
2 of 3 daily KHH-HKG will be operated by 738 instead of A333 and KHH-HGH will now be all 738.
KHH-NRT will now be operated by A333 instead of 738.
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...rvice-changes/
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...from-oct-2017/