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Old Jun 23, 09, 1:00 pm   #226
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It was never a problem UNTIL I made a post in a win report about how I was seeing different prices depending on what browser I was using, if my cache/cookies was clear, and if I was logged in to my account before searching. After that part of the win report was deleted I asked why in the same thread and at that point was put on mod review.
You've answered your own question. You posted irrelevant stuff in the moderator's view and they edited your post. That should have been the end of it. Then you posted additional stuff after the thread should have finished. The moderators try to keep the board clear and orderly and they should not have to deal with editing and observing posts that are not on the point of the thread's main purpose. Since you didn't agree, they had no choice. Over here at Flyer Talk threads have no particular for collecting data and this one is an example of how it can go every which way and make no sense in terms of conveying information (and Sheryl continues to be insulted). BB and BFT are databases, with separate discussion areas. This works and patrolling the division keeps them useful. Make your observations in the proper places and expect proper treatment.
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Old Jun 23, 09, 1:30 pm   #227
 
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That's just it... I didn't break any posted rules. I ALWAYS posted wins and helped with IDs before making any commentary which is what was specifically asked by "theruare". I never made reccomendations of properties other than those appearing on the same Hotwire search. I also always used the BB links to Hotwire and Priceline, but I don't think that's really a contributing factor.

It was never a problem UNTIL I made a post in a win report about how I was seeing different prices depending on what browser I was using, if my cache/cookies was clear, and if I was logged in to my account before searching. After that part of the win report was deleted I asked why in the same thread and at that point was put on mod review. I was never told why any of the action was taken and thereuare will not respond to PMs. If I broke a rule that I'm not aware of, fine, tell me. Up until now, I've not been told of anything I did wrong and can't see any posted rules that I broke... unilateral action was taken with no explanation and no response to PMs asking why.

I've not been banned (IP or username) but my posts are now on mod review and none are getting through.
On many boards, including FT, publicly questioning/discussing moderator decisions is considered poor form. I suspect this may have to do with why you are on "review".
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Old Jun 23, 09, 1:33 pm   #228
 
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You've answered your own question. You posted irrelevant stuff in the moderator's view and they edited your post. That should have been the end of it. Then you posted additional stuff after the thread should have finished. The moderators try to keep the board clear and orderly and they should not have to deal with editing and observing posts that are not on the point of the thread's main purpose. Since you didn't agree, they had no choice. Over here at Flyer Talk threads have no particular for collecting data and this one is an example of how it can go every which way and make no sense in terms of conveying information (and Sheryl continues to be insulted). BB and BFT are databases, with separate discussion areas. This works and patrolling the division keeps them useful. Make your observations in the proper places and expect proper treatment.
Do you think it's acceptable for a mod to take such action and not inform a poster of why? And to ignore PM requests for explanation? Especially when no posted forum rules were broken and the mod's own direction for commentary AFTER win/ID were followed? And why would discussion of differing prices depending on browser/cache/cookies/login be removed at all, especially when they were discussions of the different prices seen for a particular search in that search's win report?

Again, if I broke a rule, fine... just let me know. Taking action without explanation and ignoring PMs asking for clarification my be the mod's prerogative, but it doesn't seem to be any way to manage an online community.
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Old Jun 23, 09, 1:35 pm   #229
 
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On many boards, including FT, publicly questioning/discussing moderator decisions is considered poor form. I suspect this may have to do with why you are on "review".
Would you not agree taking actions against a poster without informing them and ignoring PM requests as to why is equally poor form? Is asking for justification not justified?
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Old Jun 23, 09, 2:43 pm   #230
 
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Would you not agree taking actions against a poster without informing them and ignoring PM requests as to why is equally poor form? Is asking for justification not justified?
I agree that it would be polite of them to tell you why they did it, and also helpful in that it could help you avoid the problem in the future. However, the fact is, it's their board, not yours, and as such their moderation decisions are within their discretion. Therefore, they do not have to justify them, and while you can ask I don't see any particular reason they have to tell you. I can also see why demanding an explanation might come across, to them, as disrespectful of their moderatorial privilege.

I agree with the advice posted above to chill out for several days and then perhaps send one more polite, deferential PM asking if they could please explain what happened.

If you still don't get a response I would consider not spending any more time contributing to this person's board.
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Old Jun 23, 09, 2:54 pm   #231
 
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I was very careful not to come across as angry, rude, argumentative, demanding, or disrespectful in any of my PMs. I made clear that if I broke a rule I'd like to know what and I was more than willing to stay within the confines of the board's rules. I really don't want to stop contributing, but if it really is a case of "it's our board, we don't have to justify ourselves" then I may have to go that route.
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Old Jun 23, 09, 3:51 pm   #232
 
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You need to step back. It's obvious from the edits your comments were considered off topic. It's obvious from your posts in this thread you want to debate the issue. He doesn't want to take the time to explain what you already know. Sounds like you didn't have real problems until you posted on FT. Many board moderators don't have a sense of humor when they're attacked/criticise in other forums. My guess is you have the choice of continuing the debate on FT or let it lie and send an apology PM to the board operator.

I understand you thought you posted good information. It should be obvious to you the board owner doesn't agree with you. It's also obvious he has no interest in debating the issue with you. You don't seem to be able to accept his judgement.
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Old Jun 23, 09, 5:43 pm   #233
 
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All of my corespondence have been professional, none have ranted, and my last did include an apology. It's the lack of communication after a summary judgement that bothers me the most. I'm really surprised FTers think this is acceptable of BB. If it were BFT, it seems the response would be vastly different...
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Old Jun 23, 09, 8:49 pm   #234
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Do you think it's acceptable for a mod to take such action and not inform a poster of why?
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Old Jun 23, 09, 8:53 pm   #235
 
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Then I hope it happens to you...
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Old Jun 23, 09, 9:01 pm   #236
 
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Then I hope it happens to you...
Whoa.

While the answers to your questions here may not be what you were hoping to hear (or read), everyone IMO has remained civil on this subject, albeit candid. Let's not degrade the discussion with childlike behavior.
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Old Jun 23, 09, 9:11 pm   #237
 
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If it's acceptable, he obviously wouldn't mind if it happened to him. Nobody cared a bit to rail on BFT, but suddenly the same tactics are acceptable for BB?
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Old Jun 23, 09, 9:24 pm   #238
 
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If it's acceptable, he obviously wouldn't mind if it happened to him.
I can't argue with you there. It was merely the wishing it to happen on your part that I thought to be a bit juvenile.

It's an interesting discussion, and I simply hope we can keep it on an adult level, that's all.
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Old Jun 23, 09, 9:25 pm   #239
 
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I can't argue with you there. It was merely the wishing it to happen on your part that I thought to be a bit juvenile.

It's an interesting discussion, and I simply hope we can keep it on an adult level, that's all.
Understood... my apologies to B1 and everyone else reading.
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Old Jun 24, 09, 5:56 am   #240
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Understood... my apologies to B1 and everyone else reading.
If you ask a question, don't threaten consequences to those who don't agree with you when they answer. The point is one of consistency - that I would not deliberately take the actions you took and if I did so in the heat of the moment I would accept the actions of the moderators as their wisdom. Perhaps your apology indicates that this is now part of your future posting etiquette. If that's the case, the apology is accepted.
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