Just bought an AONE4 through the AA RTW desk ticketed by Mindpearl. (I leave on Thursday.) Total of 12 segments including one surface, last four are open. Mindpearl's position is that open segments = paper ticket. And not only that, but it was three consecutive old-fashioned handwritten four flight tickets on 001 stock, complete with red carbon!!!
Just booked my first DONE3 for October: LHR->HEL->ICN->NRT->DFW->AUS->ORD->LHR and the two legs on AA domestic have been booked into L ("according to the rules" says my TA).
Going through the very useful FAQ, I found this: "On two class US domestic flights, if you hold a D class ticket you can book into the A (first) inventory, if it is available, at no extra charge."
Am I correctly interpreting that my TA can book me into A on the DFW->AUS and AUS->ORD flights (assuming availability) for no extra charge?
Just booked my first DONE3 for October: LHR->HEL->ICN->NRT->DFW->AUS->ORD->LHR and the two legs on AA domestic have been booked into L ("according to the rules" says my TA).
Going through the very useful FAQ, I found this: "On two class US domestic flights, if you hold a D class ticket you can book into the A (first) inventory, if it is available, at no extra charge."
Am I correctly interpreting that my TA can book me into A on the DFW->AUS and AUS->ORD flights (assuming availability) for no extra charge?
Correct.
From the rules:
Quote:
NOTE: For flights where First or Business Class is not offered or available, passengers may travel in a
lower Class, in the applicable booking code for that lower Class. The fare for the highest Class used
applies, without compensation. Exception - for services within the USA where no Business Class is offered, Business Class passengers
may book and travel in First Class (Booking Code "A"), subject to availability. This provision does not apply
on any flight where Business Class exists but is unavailable for booking.
I'm pretty new to the whole idea of the explorer ticket and have been 'playing' with various route ideas on the Milage Monkey website. I've read the rules at the begining of the thread and yet I can't figure out why certain routes are coming up as invalid for the purposes of the explore ticket...can any of you guys help?
LAX-SYD-CNS-HKG-BKK-DXB-LON-LAX works fine apparently but as soon as I attempt to incorporate Cape Town between DXB and LON I get an error message....same happens when I attempt to incorporate GIG between LON-LAX.
I've crossed both the Atlantic and Pacific so that can't be an issue, I don't thing I'm backtracking, I'm pretty sure I'm not flying too many segments in one 'continent' and I certainly havent exceeded 16 segments. Apologies if I'm missing something obvious but I'm stuck!
I'm pretty new to the whole idea of the explorer ticket and have been 'playing' with various route ideas on the Milage Monkey website. I've read the rules at the begining of the thread and yet I can't figure out why certain routes are coming up as invalid for the purposes of the explore ticket...can any of you guys help?
LAX-SYD-CNS-HKG-BKK-DXB-LON-LAX works fine apparently but as soon as I attempt to incorporate Cape Town between DXB and LON I get an error message....same happens when I attempt to incorporate GIG between LON-LAX.
I've crossed both the Atlantic and Pacific so that can't be an issue, I don't thing I'm backtracking, I'm pretty sure I'm not flying too many segments in one 'continent' and I certainly havent exceeded 16 segments. Apologies if I'm missing something obvious but I'm stuck!
DXB is Europe for the purposes of the OWE and Cape Town is obviously Africa. You need to reverse DXB and Asia, e.g. HKG-BKK-HKG-JNB-CPT-LHR-DXB... or else you're entering Europe twice, which is only permitted if one of the entries is in conjunction with a flight to/from NBO, DAR, EBB or a couple of other African cities, none of which is in South Africa.
As for adding GIG between London and LAX, the routing is legal; just watch your connections and number of segments.
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LAX-SYD-CNS-HKG-BKK-DXB-LON-LAX works fine apparently but as soon as I attempt to incorporate Cape Town between DXB and LON I get an error message....same happens when I attempt to incorporate GIG between LON-LAX.
In Mileage Monkey make sure you scroll down to the bottom to see details of errors. For example, adding DXB-CPT-LON results in the error message:
"Error!!! No oneworld service exists DXB-CPT"
Ditto for GIG-LAX
Play around with MM to learn its capabiltities; the OWE Planner section is useful - plug in from: GIG to: ~NAM (=Nth Am, ~EUR=Europe etc) to see all OW flights from GIG to Nth Am
Also, see the fare rules here. What garyloo said about entering Europe twice is correct, and is explained in the rules.
Thanks very much! I really thought I'd checked everything out.....feeling a little less clever after failing to scroll to the bottom of the screen to get more info
As requested, below is a table showing "L" class FFP earning rates by airline flown/FFP.
Booking Class L - Redeemable miles/km per mile/km flown
Code:
FFP> AA* AY BA CX EI IB LA QF
*Pts *Pts
FLY
V
AA* 1 1 0.25 1 Y Y 1 0.5
AY** 1 1 0.25 1 Y Y 1 1
BA* 0.25 0.5 0.25 0.5 Y Y 0.25 0.25
CX 0 1 0.25 1 Y N 1 0.5
EI 0 1 0.25 1 Y Y 1 1
IB 0.3 1 0.25 0 Y Y 0.3 1
LA 1 1 0.25 1 Y Y 1 1
QF 0.5 1 0.25 0.5 Y Y 0.7 1
AY Dom 1 0.5 0.25 1 Y Y 1 1
LP I/N 1 1 0.25 0 ? ? 1 1
LP Dom 0 0 0.25 0 ? ? 1 0
* No AA credit on BA US-LON, no BA credit on AA US-LON and v.v.
** Most plans exclude AY "Excursion" (Y-only) flt nos.
*Pts - FFP uses distance-based points; No./pct varies by class/distance
I make no warranties regarding the completeness or accuracy of this. If you find a mistake, go here.
For me, 2 questions arise out of this if 'L' is being used as a generic Economy Class ticket.
1) The AAdavantage website shows that discounted economy tickets on Cathay accrue 100% miles flown and 1:1 EQMs but the table above would appear to show that you cannot accrue AA miles on CX in economy. Am I misreading this or is this table just for explorer tickets which have 'special' mileage accrual rules?
2) If I have indeed understood the table correctly then the obvious solution would appear to be to sign up for Asia Miles to accumulate points with every other airline and the points can later be used on AA. The question arising from this is isn't this unfair to AAdvantage members? Asia Miles flyers can accumulate on AA and spend on AA but not vice versa...doesn't seem right.
... Am I misreading this or is this table just for explorer tickets which have 'special' mileage accrual rules? ...
This table is for LONEx type tickets where all travel books to L class. So it reflected the earnings available on a FF program by carrier basis in L class when posted by Gardyloo.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MauiTigerShark
... The question arising from this is isn't this unfair to AAdvantage members? Asia Miles flyers can accumulate on AA and spend on AA but not vice versa...doesn't seem right.
Fairness does not come into it; it relates to individual agreements between the individual airlines; it's purely commercial and it's not really a oneworld issue.
What happens is that if a member of a FF program travels on a "partner" airline's flight (whether oneworld or not) that partner has an agreement to pay for FF miles/points that may be credited to the member's program. Such agreement specifies varying rates and points earning based on several factors, including booking class.
In this case, CX have decided they will not pay AA for miles to be credited to an AAdvantage member's account with travel in L class on CX flights. However, AA will pay CX for miles to credited to an Asia Miles member's account with travel in L class on AA flights.
