Ultimate global A/D/LONE3/4/5/6 pricing
Jun 18, 2004, 8:21 pm
#1
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Ultimate global A/D/LONE3/4/5/6 pricing
As of Aug. 8, 2007, the most current pricing available can be found in WearyBizTraveler's spread sheet, referenced here.
There is an anticipated price increase on Sept 1, 2007, at least in Asia.
Also, Serfty has listed a number of resources for fares:
SanDiego1K
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There is an anticipated price increase on Sept 1, 2007, at least in Asia.
Also, Serfty has listed a number of resources for fares:
The oneworld website now publishes the base rates for most oneworld fare products (xONEx, XCIRnn etc)
Look here: Air Travel Options for an overview, here: oneworld Explorer for xONEx information and here: Fare Estimate for xONEx fares from different countries.
Look here: Air Travel Options for an overview, here: oneworld Explorer for xONEx information and here: Fare Estimate for xONEx fares from different countries.
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Last edited by SanDiego1K; Aug 28, 2007 at 12:56 pm
Oct 5, 2004, 11:18 pm
#2
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Consolidating RTW fare data
I've taken the liberty of using this data to put together a spreadsheet with all the RTW fares for oneworld, SkyTeam and Star Alliance. It still needs a bit of work, but those who're interested can download it here.
Mar 28, 2005, 5:16 pm
#3
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Originally Posted by lucab1982
Hi,
Anyone had any luck when using BA to be put in W/T class? Is there an upgrade fare? Say if I bought a LONEX and wanted certain segments in w/T when flying BA?
Anyone had any luck when using BA to be put in W/T class? Is there an upgrade fare? Say if I bought a LONEX and wanted certain segments in w/T when flying BA?
83N WORLD TRAVELLER PLUS
84N ---------------------
85N .
86N BA ECONOMY CLASS PASSENGERS MAY TRAVEL IN BA WORLD
87N TRAVELLER PLUS CABIN FOR AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE PER
88N FLIGHT SEGMENT OF:
89N .
90N .
91N . USD300 AUD600
92N .
93N EXCEPTION - FOR DIRECT FLIGHTS BETWEEN LONMEL AND
94N LONSYD THE CHARGE WILL BE
95N .
96N .
97N . USD450 AUD900
98N .
99N IDENTIFY AS A -Q- IN THE FARE CALCULATION. FOR TICKETS
100N NOT ISSUED IN USD/AUD CONVERT THE USD AMOUNT AT THE
101N BSR.
102N EXCEPTION - FOR TICKETS ISSUED IN NZD, CONVERT THE AUD
103N AMOUNT AT THE BSR.
104N .
84N ---------------------
85N .
86N BA ECONOMY CLASS PASSENGERS MAY TRAVEL IN BA WORLD
87N TRAVELLER PLUS CABIN FOR AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE PER
88N FLIGHT SEGMENT OF:
89N .
90N .
91N . USD300 AUD600
92N .
93N EXCEPTION - FOR DIRECT FLIGHTS BETWEEN LONMEL AND
94N LONSYD THE CHARGE WILL BE
95N .
96N .
97N . USD450 AUD900
98N .
99N IDENTIFY AS A -Q- IN THE FARE CALCULATION. FOR TICKETS
100N NOT ISSUED IN USD/AUD CONVERT THE USD AMOUNT AT THE
101N BSR.
102N EXCEPTION - FOR TICKETS ISSUED IN NZD, CONVERT THE AUD
103N AMOUNT AT THE BSR.
104N .
Aug 3, 2005, 1:02 pm
#4
Join Date: Jun 2004
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updated ex-CAI prices
Hi all,
I just bought my newest AONE3 ex-CAI and made a note that the price in EGP was exactly the same as in last November but the price in EUR significantly higher as EGP has strengthened against EUR/GBP/USD.
I made a script and a web page http://www.iki.fi/visti/owe.html that updates daily. It fetches real-time exchange rates information and calculates the current prices in EUR/USD/GBP. I don't have that many prices in EGP (only AONE3, AONE4, DONE4 are displayed as I was able to pick the EGP prices from this thread). I might add other tickets and maybe even other locations (IST, WAW) someday when I'm bored.
If it doesn't work or the prices in EGP change, please drop me a note and I'll fix it.
/hv
I just bought my newest AONE3 ex-CAI and made a note that the price in EGP was exactly the same as in last November but the price in EUR significantly higher as EGP has strengthened against EUR/GBP/USD.
I made a script and a web page http://www.iki.fi/visti/owe.html that updates daily. It fetches real-time exchange rates information and calculates the current prices in EUR/USD/GBP. I don't have that many prices in EGP (only AONE3, AONE4, DONE4 are displayed as I was able to pick the EGP prices from this thread). I might add other tickets and maybe even other locations (IST, WAW) someday when I'm bored.
If it doesn't work or the prices in EGP change, please drop me a note and I'll fix it.
/hv
Sep 29, 2005, 8:52 am
#5
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Thought I might transmit the results of some fare prowling...
Croatia (OW service ex-DBV to LGW, DUB, MAN, ex-SPU to LGW, seasonal) is shown on on various fare tables as still being a cheap place to start an xONEx. So I emailed the Zagreb BA office to enquire, and got a response that they don't offer RTWs since no OW carrier flies to ZAG. I replied that I thought that DBV or SPU would qualify, and could they consult the rates dept. Their (very prompt) email reply was that there were no fares in Amadeus (which I expected).
Rather than ask again for them to consult the rates desk I phoned the AA RTW desk, who are usually quite good at quoting fares, and the CSR there said they're showing the following DONEx fares (sorry, I didn't ask about L or A):
DONE3 USD4400
DONE4 USD5000
DONE5 USD5900
DONE6 USD6500
These are the same as were being charged in WAW (and a dollar more than IST) until earlier this year, so if there's been an adjustment to the general OW pricing then AA doesn't know about it.
AA doesn't have any codeshare flights operating from DBV (no same-day connections to the US) so it looks like we'd be in the same situation as IST - deal with BA or nobody. So who knows if BA has re-priced the xONExs in Euros or something, and just not told OW.
Still, DBV is an attractive place, relatively easy to get to (even by ferry from Italy) and might be worth looking at for RTWs.
I do wish, though, that one could count on a fare being quoted by one OW member as being definitive, rather than dealing with noobs in sales offices or rates desks located on Pluto.
Croatia (OW service ex-DBV to LGW, DUB, MAN, ex-SPU to LGW, seasonal) is shown on on various fare tables as still being a cheap place to start an xONEx. So I emailed the Zagreb BA office to enquire, and got a response that they don't offer RTWs since no OW carrier flies to ZAG. I replied that I thought that DBV or SPU would qualify, and could they consult the rates dept. Their (very prompt) email reply was that there were no fares in Amadeus (which I expected).
Rather than ask again for them to consult the rates desk I phoned the AA RTW desk, who are usually quite good at quoting fares, and the CSR there said they're showing the following DONEx fares (sorry, I didn't ask about L or A):
DONE3 USD4400
DONE4 USD5000
DONE5 USD5900
DONE6 USD6500
These are the same as were being charged in WAW (and a dollar more than IST) until earlier this year, so if there's been an adjustment to the general OW pricing then AA doesn't know about it.
AA doesn't have any codeshare flights operating from DBV (no same-day connections to the US) so it looks like we'd be in the same situation as IST - deal with BA or nobody. So who knows if BA has re-priced the xONExs in Euros or something, and just not told OW.
Still, DBV is an attractive place, relatively easy to get to (even by ferry from Italy) and might be worth looking at for RTWs.
I do wish, though, that one could count on a fare being quoted by one OW member as being definitive, rather than dealing with noobs in sales offices or rates desks located on Pluto.
Sep 29, 2005, 2:26 pm
#6
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Current taxes/surcharges ex-CAI
I had been figuring on taxes and surcharges adding about 10% to an AONE4 ex-CAI. However, I have just ticketed mine in the last day and on the base fare of EGP 41680 (which includes paying for an extra economy segment), the taxes/surcharges were EGP 5880-- i.e., more than 14%. It has been arranged directly with BA-CAI. Be prepared.
Sep 30, 2005, 4:22 am
#7
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Originally Posted by ReelChief
I had been figuring on taxes and surcharges adding about 10% to an AONE4 ex-CAI. However, I have just ticketed mine in the last day and on the base fare of EGP 41680 (which includes paying for an extra economy segment), the taxes/surcharges were EGP 5880-- i.e., more than 14%. It has been arranged directly with BA-CAI. Be prepared.
It seems that at least on BA some of the charges are dependent on the class of travel. I'm not absolutely sure about that but a friend of mine got her LONE4 priced last week and the taxes&stuff were about half of my AONE3 taxes. Of course the routing affects this as well. Last March I booked a first class award ticket HEL-LHR-JNB // CPT-LHR-HEL and the extra charge was 170€. I asked BA why on earth it can be so much and they just explained "it is a first class ticket and it is more expensive than L or D".
/hv
Oct 1, 2005, 10:12 am
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Originally Posted by Full Score
You can thank the good ol' British socialist government for taxing Business and First Class international tickets at a higher rate than Economy ones.
Oct 9, 2005, 12:58 pm
#9
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Originally Posted by ReelChief
I have just ticketed mine in the last day and on the base fare of EGP 41680 (which includes paying for an extra economy segment), the taxes/surcharges were EGP 5880-- i.e., more than 14%. It has been arranged directly with BA-CAI.
AONE4
Basic fare EGP 40884
Total fare EGP 43863
Fees equal EGP 2979 or 8%. They are within 1% of last year. I'm pleasantly surprised, as I was expecting heavy fuel surcharges.
Oct 11, 2005, 1:02 pm
#10
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Originally Posted by hvisti
What kind of routing did you have? I got my AONE3 ticketed just before the BA fuel surcharge increase (CAI-LHR-LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-JFK-HKG-ICN-HKG-SIN-LHR-HEL-LHR-CAI) and the tax part was 5700 EGP.
/hv
/hv
Basic fare EGP 40884
Total fare EGP 43863
Fees equal EGP 2979 or 8%
CAI-LHR-LAX/ SAN-DFW-MIA-UVF/ SLU-SJU-LAX-HKG-NRT-HKG-CMB/ HKG-MEL-ASP-SYD-AKL-SYD-LHR/ LGW-KRK-LGW/ LHR-CAI
Oct 19, 2005, 6:09 pm
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Taxes and Fuel Surcharges
Originally Posted by ReelChief
I had been figuring on taxes and surcharges adding about 10% to an AONE4 ex-CAI. However, I have just ticketed mine in the last day and on the base fare of EGP 41680 (which includes paying for an extra economy segment), the taxes/surcharges were EGP 5880-- i.e., more than 14%. It has been arranged directly with BA-CAI. Be prepared.
I am trying to find out why. The routing given was
CAI-LHR-YYZ-CUN-DFW-DEN-LAX-MEL-AKL-ZQN-SYD-JNB-CPT...NBO-LHR-CAI
One thought is QANTAS fuel surcharges.
Any ideas?
Jan 22, 2006, 4:56 pm
#12
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For completeness, these are the latest changes as published by CX. Nothing much new here except making explicit that voluntary changes to the first segment of an issued ticket requires a reissue at current terms (which I had always taken to be the implicit status anyway):
Code:
Please be advised the following changes with effective 15 January 2006 :
1. ONEWORLD EXPLORER FARE CONDITION PARAGRAPH 04.C.3 -
ADD KENYA TO THE EXCEPTION, REVISED WORDING AS BELOW:
04 FLIGHT APPLICATION
C/3/ FOR TRAVEL TO/FROM/VIA GHANA/NIGERIA/ KENYA TWO
PERMITTED IN EUROPE WHEN ONE IS A TRANSFER WITHOUT
STOPOVER BETWEEN GHANA/NIGERIA/ KENYA AND ANOTHER CONTINENT.
2. ONEWORLD CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE CONDITION PARAGRAPH 07 -
MAXIMUM STAY IS REVISED TO 12 MONTHS
3. VOLUNTARY CHANGES TO TICKET ISSUED BEFORE REVISION
OF FARE LEVELS/FARE CONDITIONS.
PLEASE BE ADVD THE FOLLOWING HANDLING PROCEDURE:
A. WHEN THERE IS NO VOLUNTARY CHANGE TO THE ORIGINATING
FLIGHT -FIRST FLIGHT COUPON-, THE FARES AND CHARGES
FOR THE JOURNEY SHALL BE CALCULATED IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE FARE AND CONDITIONS IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
ON WHICH THE TICKET IS ISSUED.
B. WHEN THERE IS VOLUNTARY CHANGE TO THE ORIGINATING
FLIGHT -FIRST FLIGHT COUPON-, THE FARES AND CHARGES
FOR THE JOURNEY SHALL BE CALCULATED IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE FARE AND CONDITIONS IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
ON WHICH THE CHANGE IS MADE.
4. INCREASE EX EGYPT FIRST AND BUSINESS CLASS ONEWORLD
FARE FARE BASIS FARE LEVELS EFF 15JAN06
AONE3 EGP35400 -NO CHANGE-
AONE4 EGP54900
AONE5 EGP63000
AONE6 EGP73800
DONE3 EGP27290 -NO CHANGE-
DONE4 EGP35100
DONE5 EGP40500
DONE6 EGP47700
AONEWC3 EGP35400 -NO CHANGE-
AONEWC4 EGP54900
DONEWC3 EGP27290 -NO CHANGE-
DONEWC4 EGP35100
AGLOB34 EGP54900
DGLOB34 EGP35100
Thank you for your attention.
Feb 2, 2006, 4:34 pm
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Just so the data from this thread is stickied-http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=515488
Latest pricing spreadsheets
WearyBizTrvlr - http://qsi.cc/users/wbt/RTW%20Fares.xls
Latest StarFile
WearyBizTrvlr - http://www.hardlink.com/~markdu/OWFi...eExplorer.html
Australian restrictions - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...0&postcount=50
Latest pricing spreadsheets
WearyBizTrvlr - http://qsi.cc/users/wbt/RTW%20Fares.xls
Latest StarFile
WearyBizTrvlr - http://www.hardlink.com/~markdu/OWFi...eExplorer.html
Australian restrictions - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...0&postcount=50
Last edited by SanDiego1K; Jun 23, 2006 at 4:42 pm Reason: Updated Star File link
Apr 17, 2006, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by Jerry_Maguire
Did European origination RTW fares just go up on April 15? I don't really care about their pricing, but would like to know if there has been another round of fare increases.
"Fare levels ex Europe, Middle East, and Africa have been amended for sales on/ after 15 April 2006 for the Oneworld Explorer Fare (AONE*/DONE*/L#ONE*) Additional fare levels ex Europe, Middle East and Africa have also been introduced."
That's the message from Qantas already over 2 weeks ago. I haven't seen the new fares yet but I am sure someone with access to them, will post the info here shortly.
Apr 19, 2006, 2:46 am
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So I got confirmation from Emeco this morning 
Here is a comparison of the changes. Looks like the A/DONE3 anomaly has been addressed, along with a general increase across the board.
Code:
(prices EGP) x=3 x=4 x=5 x=6 AONEx 48700 60400 69300 81200 DONEx 34300 38700 44600 52500 LONEx 14500 17000 19500 22100
Code:
AONE3 AONE4 AONE5 AONE6
20-Jan 35400 54900 63000 73800
15-Apr 48700 60400 69300 81200
% incr 38% 10% 10% 10%
DONE3 DONE4 DONE5 DONE6
20-Jan 27290 35100 40500 47700
15-Apr 34300 38700 44600 52500
% incr 26% 10% 10% 10%
LONE3 LONE4 LONE5 LONE6
20-Jan 11570 13590 15600 17650
15-Apr 14500 17000 19500 22100
% incr 25% 25% 25% 25%
Last edited by SLF; Apr 19, 2006 at 5:52 am