Africa originating DONEx DOH transit
Aug 18, 2017, 2:24 pm
#1
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Africa originating DONEx DOH transit
I have a question regarding a transit via DOH for a Oneworld Explorer ticket which originated in Maputo. I think I am aware of the relevant fare rules, but am struggling a little to interpret them in these circumstances. Hopefully someone here can help !
The original (and currently) booked itinerary is as follows.
MPM-xDOH-JFK-SEA-LAX-AKL-xHKG-NRT-xDOH-WAW-DOH-LHR-JNB-VFA-JNB-PLZ
The flights through to LHR have already been flown and I am now wanting to change the final four segments to the following :
LHR-CPT-surface-JNB-xDOH-JRO
Basically I am wanting to go via South Africa and end up in Tanzania/Kenya rather than South Africa at the end of the ticket. Having tried to make this change to the booking with BA, the BA Agent is telling me I can't backtrack to the Middle East once I go back to Africa.
The problem is that once we are in South Africa, the only way we can get back up to Kenya or Tanzania on Oneworld is by transiting via somewhere outside Africa - DOH being the most convenient transit hub. And obviously the ticket needs to end up back in Africa somehow.
Is this viable or does it break the rules by taking me out of Africa again once I have finished there already ?
The original (and currently) booked itinerary is as follows.
MPM-xDOH-JFK-SEA-LAX-AKL-xHKG-NRT-xDOH-WAW-DOH-LHR-JNB-VFA-JNB-PLZ
The flights through to LHR have already been flown and I am now wanting to change the final four segments to the following :
LHR-CPT-surface-JNB-xDOH-JRO
Basically I am wanting to go via South Africa and end up in Tanzania/Kenya rather than South Africa at the end of the ticket. Having tried to make this change to the booking with BA, the BA Agent is telling me I can't backtrack to the Middle East once I go back to Africa.
The problem is that once we are in South Africa, the only way we can get back up to Kenya or Tanzania on Oneworld is by transiting via somewhere outside Africa - DOH being the most convenient transit hub. And obviously the ticket needs to end up back in Africa somehow.
Is this viable or does it break the rules by taking me out of Africa again once I have finished there already ?
Aug 19, 2017, 9:15 am
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This is from memory, so I could be wrong. I believe this breaks the rule of the number of intercontinental departures from continents.
I have a question regarding a transit via DOH for a Oneworld Explorer ticket which originated in Maputo. I think I am aware of the relevant fare rules, but am struggling a little to interpret them in these circumstances. Hopefully someone here can help !
The original (and currently) booked itinerary is as follows.
MPM-xDOH-JFK-SEA-LAX-AKL-xHKG-NRT-xDOH-WAW-DOH-LHR-JNB-VFA-JNB-PLZ
The flights through to LHR have already been flown and I am now wanting to change the final four segments to the following :
LHR-CPT-surface-JNB-xDOH-JRO
Basically I am wanting to go via South Africa and end up in Tanzania/Kenya rather than South Africa at the end of the ticket. Having tried to make this change to the booking with BA, the BA Agent is telling me I can't backtrack to the Middle East once I go back to Africa.
The problem is that once we are in South Africa, the only way we can get back up to Kenya or Tanzania on Oneworld is by transiting via somewhere outside Africa - DOH being the most convenient transit hub. And obviously the ticket needs to end up back in Africa somehow.
Is this viable or does it break the rules by taking me out of Africa again once I have finished there already ?
The original (and currently) booked itinerary is as follows.
MPM-xDOH-JFK-SEA-LAX-AKL-xHKG-NRT-xDOH-WAW-DOH-LHR-JNB-VFA-JNB-PLZ
The flights through to LHR have already been flown and I am now wanting to change the final four segments to the following :
LHR-CPT-surface-JNB-xDOH-JRO
Basically I am wanting to go via South Africa and end up in Tanzania/Kenya rather than South Africa at the end of the ticket. Having tried to make this change to the booking with BA, the BA Agent is telling me I can't backtrack to the Middle East once I go back to Africa.
The problem is that once we are in South Africa, the only way we can get back up to Kenya or Tanzania on Oneworld is by transiting via somewhere outside Africa - DOH being the most convenient transit hub. And obviously the ticket needs to end up back in Africa somehow.
Is this viable or does it break the rules by taking me out of Africa again once I have finished there already ?
Aug 19, 2017, 9:38 am
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Aug 19, 2017, 10:35 am
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Welcome to FT Brianek
As the others have said, the BA agent is correct
The general rule is:
The rule then lists three exceptions that allow a second pair of arrivals & departures to certain continents
One exception allows it for Europe/Middle East; no exception allows it for Africa
Your proposed itinerary has:
So, it looks like you will have to choose between returning to southern Africa or going to East Africa
(Maybe a JNB-JRO/DAR/ZNZ 1-way ticket is an option for you?)
As the others have said, the BA agent is correct
The general rule is:
4(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent
One exception allows it for Europe/Middle East; no exception allows it for Africa
Your proposed itinerary has:
- Two departures/arrivals for Africa
The 1st pair is MPM-DOH and LHR-CPT
The 2nd pair is JNB-DOH and DOH-JRO - Three arrivals/departures to Europe/Middle East
The 1st pair is MPM-DOH and DOH-JFK
The 2nd pair is NRT-DOH and LHR-CPT
The 3rd pair is JNB-DOH and DOH-JRO
So, it looks like you will have to choose between returning to southern Africa or going to East Africa
(Maybe a JNB-JRO/DAR/ZNZ 1-way ticket is an option for you?)
Last edited by pandaperth; Aug 19, 2017 at 2:55 pm Reason: typo
Oct 6, 2017, 12:24 pm
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Feb 4, 2018, 12:59 pm
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Sorry, I did not answer the question ! The reason was that we wanted to drive the garden route. We ended up finishing the ticket in JRO instead 