Circle Asia & South West Pacific
Mar 7, 2017, 10:54 am
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 938
Circle Asia & South West Pacific
I'm planning some travel for later in the year and the Circle Asia & South West Pacific fare would seem to cover the countries I want to travel to. As expected, the base fares are not available on the oneworld website, nor on the airlines' websites. I tried calling CX but the first two agents had no clue about this.
The oneworld website page for this fare was last updated almost three years ago so this is obviously not a best seller for them
Does anyone here have experience using this fare or access to the base fares? I'm interested in the 13,000-mile fare in C ex-Philippines or Hong Kong but can be flexible with the start point. Thanks.
The oneworld website page for this fare was last updated almost three years ago so this is obviously not a best seller for them
Does anyone here have experience using this fare or access to the base fares? I'm interested in the 13,000-mile fare in C ex-Philippines or Hong Kong but can be flexible with the start point. Thanks.
Mar 7, 2017, 11:51 pm
#3
Join Date: Jul 2007
Programs: QFF
Posts: 5,304
I've gotten a DAS13 each year since 2010. Booked via a travel agent and ticketed by QF each time.
The first time I was looking at it, I contacted CX about it (as I also get a DONE3 that pairs with the DAS13 and had been planning to have both ticketed by CX). CX refused to give a quote, claiming I had to talk to QF as the first sector operator. I had to start quoting fare rules at them to get them to give me a price.
The first time I was looking at it, I contacted CX about it (as I also get a DONE3 that pairs with the DAS13 and had been planning to have both ticketed by CX). CX refused to give a quote, claiming I had to talk to QF as the first sector operator. I had to start quoting fare rules at them to get them to give me a price.
Apr 2, 2018, 11:00 am
#5
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 6,437
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bjs-bjs cxr-cx tue 03apr18 cny
//see fqhelp for information about the new fare displays//
surcharge for paper ticket may be added when itin priced
cx bjsbjs.ct 03apr18 mpm
v fare basis ap fare-ow fare-rt bk season minmax rtg
1 das13 ‡ 36260 d‡ --- 3/12m ct01
2 dcir22 ‡ 38730 d‡ --- 5/12m ct02
3 das17 ‡ 42000 d‡ --- 3/12m ct03
4 dcir26 ‡ 46440 d‡ --- 5/12m ct04
5 dcir29sa ‡ 49690 d‡ --- 5/12m ct05
6 donewc3 ‡ 65490 d‡ --- -/12m ct06
7 donewc4 ‡ 74690 d‡ --- -/12m ct07
cx bjsbjs.rw 03apr18 mpm
v fare basis ap fare-ow fare-rt bk season minmax rtg
8 done3 ‡ 65490 d‡ --- -/‡‡ rw01
9 dglob34 ‡ 74690 d‡ --- -/12m rw02
10 done4 ‡ 74690 d‡ --- -/‡‡ rw03
11 done5 ‡ 80440 d‡ --- -/‡‡ rw04
12 done6 ‡ 88910 d‡ --- -/‡‡ rw05
*** there are no yy fares published bjs-bjs ***
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tyo-tyo cxr-jl tue 03apr18 jpy
//see fqhelp for information about the new fare displays//
surcharge for paper ticket may be added when itin priced
jl tyotyo.ct 03apr18 mpm
v fare basis ap fare-ow fare-rt bk season minmax rtg
1 das13 ‡ 524000 d‡ --- 3/12m ct01
2 das17 ‡ 613000 d‡ --- 3/12m ct02
3 donewc3 ‡ 656300 d‡ --- -/12m ct03
4 dcir22 ‡ 670000 d‡ --- 5/12m ct04
5 donewc4 ‡ 780400 d‡ --- -/12m ct05
6 dcir26 ‡ 803000 d‡ --- 5/12m ct06
7 dcir29sa ‡ 859300 d‡ --- 5/12m ct07
jl tyotyo.rw 03apr18 mpm
v fare basis ap fare-ow fare-rt bk season minmax rtg
8 done3 ‡ 656300 d‡ --- -/12m rw01
9 dglob34 ‡ 780400 d‡ --- -/12m rw02
10 done4 ‡ 780400 d‡ --- -/12m rw03
11 done5 ‡ 895200 d‡ --- -/12m rw04
12 done6 ‡ 978200 d‡ --- -/12m rw05
*** there are no yy fares published tyo-tyo ***
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Apr 10, 2018, 9:41 pm
#7
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: YVR
Programs: QF Plat / OWE (Lifetime Gold), Aeroplan SE, HHonors Gold, Marriot Bonvoy Gold, Avis Pres't Circle
Posts: 373
Will this be a valid DAS 17,000 itinerary:
MEL-NRT (stopover)
NRT-CTS (surface sector; stopover CTS)
CTS-HKG (not sure whether this will be a stopover; I will be in HKG less than 24 hours, but overnight, so would need to collect my luggage and re-check in the next morning)
HKG-TPE (stopover)
TPE-HKG-SIN (transit through HKG; no stopover)
SIN-MEL
I am not certain of the operation of the provision in the Fare Rules which states "Only one interregional departure and one interregional arrival permitted in each region. Regions are defined as Northeast Asia/Southeast Asia/Southwest Pacific." I'm concerned that precludes my transits through HKG to TPE, as TPE is defined as Northeast Asia under the Fare Rules, so adding that to NRT and CTS would be more than one interregional departure and arrival. That said, HKG and SIN would equally be more than one interregional arrival and departure as well. The oneworld website gives an itinerary example of MEL-SIN-KUL-HKG-PEK-NRT-MEL. That's confused me as well, as SIN-KUL-HKG would give you two interregional arrivals (KUL and HKG).
Thanks for your assistance!
MEL-NRT (stopover)
NRT-CTS (surface sector; stopover CTS)
CTS-HKG (not sure whether this will be a stopover; I will be in HKG less than 24 hours, but overnight, so would need to collect my luggage and re-check in the next morning)
HKG-TPE (stopover)
TPE-HKG-SIN (transit through HKG; no stopover)
SIN-MEL
I am not certain of the operation of the provision in the Fare Rules which states "Only one interregional departure and one interregional arrival permitted in each region. Regions are defined as Northeast Asia/Southeast Asia/Southwest Pacific." I'm concerned that precludes my transits through HKG to TPE, as TPE is defined as Northeast Asia under the Fare Rules, so adding that to NRT and CTS would be more than one interregional departure and arrival. That said, HKG and SIN would equally be more than one interregional arrival and departure as well. The oneworld website gives an itinerary example of MEL-SIN-KUL-HKG-PEK-NRT-MEL. That's confused me as well, as SIN-KUL-HKG would give you two interregional arrivals (KUL and HKG).
Thanks for your assistance!
Apr 11, 2018, 1:39 am
#8
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,464
Your itinerary is not valid
The web site sample itinerary is valid
There is a difference between inter-regional flights and intra-regional flights
An inter-regional flight is a flight that begins in one region and end in another region
An intra-regional flight is one that begins and ends in the same region
So, for example, MEL-SIN is inter-regional and SIN-KUL and KUL-HKG are intra-regional
Your itinerary has too many inter-regional flights between North-East Asia and South-East Asia (CTS-HKG, HKG-TPE and TPE-HKG)
Can you just fly CTS-NRT/HND-TPE? (these of course are intra-regional flights, not inter-regional)
The web site sample itinerary is valid
There is a difference between inter-regional flights and intra-regional flights
An inter-regional flight is a flight that begins in one region and end in another region
An intra-regional flight is one that begins and ends in the same region
So, for example, MEL-SIN is inter-regional and SIN-KUL and KUL-HKG are intra-regional
Your itinerary has too many inter-regional flights between North-East Asia and South-East Asia (CTS-HKG, HKG-TPE and TPE-HKG)
Can you just fly CTS-NRT/HND-TPE? (these of course are intra-regional flights, not inter-regional)
Apr 11, 2018, 7:11 am
#9
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 6,437
Apr 15, 2018, 8:13 pm
#11
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: YVR
Programs: QF Plat / OWE (Lifetime Gold), Aeroplan SE, HHonors Gold, Marriot Bonvoy Gold, Avis Pres't Circle
Posts: 373
Your itinerary is not valid
The web site sample itinerary is valid
There is a difference between inter-regional flights and intra-regional flights
An inter-regional flight is a flight that begins in one region and end in another region
An intra-regional flight is one that begins and ends in the same region
So, for example, MEL-SIN is inter-regional and SIN-KUL and KUL-HKG are intra-regional
Your itinerary has too many inter-regional flights between North-East Asia and South-East Asia (CTS-HKG, HKG-TPE and TPE-HKG)
Can you just fly CTS-NRT/HND-TPE? (these of course are intra-regional flights, not inter-regional)
The web site sample itinerary is valid
There is a difference between inter-regional flights and intra-regional flights
An inter-regional flight is a flight that begins in one region and end in another region
An intra-regional flight is one that begins and ends in the same region
So, for example, MEL-SIN is inter-regional and SIN-KUL and KUL-HKG are intra-regional
Your itinerary has too many inter-regional flights between North-East Asia and South-East Asia (CTS-HKG, HKG-TPE and TPE-HKG)
Can you just fly CTS-NRT/HND-TPE? (these of course are intra-regional flights, not inter-regional)
Thanks again.