Oct 4, 2016, 9:37 pm
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Despite the policy some travellers have succeeded in having bags interlined. But do not rely on baggage being interlined
Link to on line blog http://www.ausbt.com.au/connecting-b...liance-skyteam
Individual threads of Oneworld Airlines interlining between separate tickets / PNRs
AF AF will not interline anymore across reservations?
DL Delta Confirms Through-Check Baggage Policy (11 January 2016)
DL Interlining Checked Bags DL to BA
Star Alliance
UA Bag Interlining Changes If Separate Tix with *A & Non *A Partners after 1 March 2015
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AS no longer interlines on separate tickets
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Individual threads of Oneworld Airlines interlining between separate tickets / PNRs
- AA -- oneworld not requiring protection or interline baggage 1 Jun 2016; AA policy. Will check through to other oneworld provided one ticket is an award according to post 125 below.
AB -- unknownClosed down- AY -- AY to AY yes, AY to OW no. Finnair baggage on separate tickets after June 1, 2016 OW decision?
- AS-->
Yes Travel that includes multiple flightsFeb 2024 AS eliminates interlining on separate tickets - BA -- BA no longer interlining baggage with separate tickets
- CX --
CX will not interline to other Oneworld airlines if travelling on separate PNRs
CX will interline from 01 Jan 2017 (reverse of policy) Post 129
CX CX WILL interline to other oneworld airlines if travelling on separate PNRs - IB -- WARNING: Changes to interlining bags with Oneworld
Will check through IB to IB separate PNRs[Source] & Iberia no more interlining baggage on separate tickets from 01/FEB/17
CX thread wiki as 18 Nov 2016] No IB to IB [interline] - JL -- JAL will continue to interline to other Oneworld carriers on separate PNRs [04 Oct 2016]
- MH -- Malaysia Airlines Official Policy on Checking bags on separate tickets Will still check through two PNRs (own or partner) [Source [url=http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1770120-cx-will-not-interline-other-oneworld-airlines-if-travelling-separate-pnrs.html]CX thread wiki as 18 Nov 2016]
LA -- Burned by Strict Enforcement of No Interline on LATAM to Oneworld (separate tix)No longer in OW
And New oneworld separate tickets policy on LATAM?]- QF -- Qantas - no checking of luggage separate itineraries from 1 Sep (2016) [some exceptions], eg will check QF to QF, QF to EK and through to other oneworld provided one ticket is an award according to post 125 below.
- QR -- Yes as of 1 Mar 2017 as per this post in the Qatar Airways forum. Prior to that, "no" as post 80 and no as post 934 in the BA thread (QR-->BA)
....QR thread-->QR interlining separate PNR baggage as of 1 Mar 2017 - RJ -- unknown
- S7 -- unknown
- UL - Will check through will still check through across tickets according to post 125 below.
AF AF will not interline anymore across reservations?
DL Delta Confirms Through-Check Baggage Policy (11 January 2016)
DL Interlining Checked Bags DL to BA
Star Alliance
UA Bag Interlining Changes If Separate Tix with *A & Non *A Partners after 1 March 2015
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Strike out LA
AS no longer interlines on separate tickets
Bag interlining issues and OW policy changes (Combined threads)
Jun 15, 2016, 5:17 am
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The only reason they did it is the same reason they did the same to non partner airlines years ago. Costs and issues involved with charging other carriers when things don't go to plan and someone has to pay for the needed service recovery.
Jun 15, 2016, 7:39 am
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There is also an industry-wide e-ticket system limitation of 16 coupons per e-ticket, including surface sectors. While a PNR can contain many more sectors, an e-ticket cannot. This was defined as industry standard almost 10 years ago.
Jun 17, 2016, 4:10 am
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BA has said that they will not interline even their own flights if issued separately... eg CDG-LHR, LHR-JFK. You'd have to pick up your bags at LHR.
But CX will interline between KA and CX flights even issued on separate tickets, and on separate PNRs. CX will interline to other carriers if all the bookings are on the same PNR, eg Amadeus when on separate tickets.
Don't know what the others are gonna do.
But CX will interline between KA and CX flights even issued on separate tickets, and on separate PNRs. CX will interline to other carriers if all the bookings are on the same PNR, eg Amadeus when on separate tickets.
Don't know what the others are gonna do.
Jun 20, 2016, 10:15 am
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This is a huge fail on One World's part.
Mixed redemptions are a plenty good reason. As are added internal flight segments after the TATL or TPAC flights are settled.
Mixed redemptions are a plenty good reason. As are added internal flight segments after the TATL or TPAC flights are settled.
Jun 20, 2016, 2:30 pm
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It is possible to change the original flight to include the internal flight segments - it may be cheaper to book separately, but I do not see that it makes it a good reason why the airline should give the benefits of a through ticket
Jun 24, 2016, 7:38 pm
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Disc Y LHR-xxx
Business xxx-LHR-JFK
in order to take advantage of much cheaper BA fares on the continent (and reduced APD on the transit).
Jun 25, 2016, 8:08 pm
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Isn't there even a bigger scenario.
Airlines the world over, would like to see the end of "checked bags".
When you think about the cost involved in transporting your bag - checking it, transporting it, returning it to you. Mega, just mega cost, all that equipment, all those people, all that weight.
Roller aboard is the desired outcome, specially for the clients that are leapfrogging from country to country (chasing low cost fare options or adding award segments) and multipling the "bag handling" cost factor.
Airlines the world over, would like to see the end of "checked bags".
When you think about the cost involved in transporting your bag - checking it, transporting it, returning it to you. Mega, just mega cost, all that equipment, all those people, all that weight.
Roller aboard is the desired outcome, specially for the clients that are leapfrogging from country to country (chasing low cost fare options or adding award segments) and multipling the "bag handling" cost factor.
Jun 27, 2016, 7:08 am
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Isn't there even a bigger scenario.
Airlines the world over, would like to see the end of "checked bags".
When you think about the cost involved in transporting your bag - checking it, transporting it, returning it to you. Mega, just mega cost, all that equipment, all those people, all that weight.
Roller aboard is the desired outcome, specially for the clients that are leapfrogging from country to country (chasing low cost fare options or adding award segments) and multipling the "bag handling" cost factor.
Airlines the world over, would like to see the end of "checked bags".
When you think about the cost involved in transporting your bag - checking it, transporting it, returning it to you. Mega, just mega cost, all that equipment, all those people, all that weight.
Roller aboard is the desired outcome, specially for the clients that are leapfrogging from country to country (chasing low cost fare options or adding award segments) and multipling the "bag handling" cost factor.
Jul 2, 2016, 1:40 am
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Isn't there even a bigger scenario.
Airlines the world over, would like to see the end of "checked bags".
When you think about the cost involved in transporting your bag - checking it, transporting it, returning it to you. Mega, just mega cost, all that equipment, all those people, all that weight.
Roller aboard is the desired outcome, specially for the clients that are leapfrogging from country to country (chasing low cost fare options or adding award segments) and multipling the "bag handling" cost factor.
Airlines the world over, would like to see the end of "checked bags".
When you think about the cost involved in transporting your bag - checking it, transporting it, returning it to you. Mega, just mega cost, all that equipment, all those people, all that weight.
Roller aboard is the desired outcome, specially for the clients that are leapfrogging from country to country (chasing low cost fare options or adding award segments) and multipling the "bag handling" cost factor.
Then airlines would have more empty cargo holds.
Then overhead bin spaces would be like gold.
Then they will think let's make some more $$$$ let sell priority boarding and sell checked bags for all the empty space below.
Then we have what we call 'Ryanair'
The lets make pax stand lets remove lavs lets .....
Say if all airlines buy that idea, Boeing will convert all planes to freighters and just keep squeezing people in like Tokyo metro during rush hour.
And just to add to the fun, Russians did explored that concept where you drop your own bags in the plane. It's called the Il-86.
Now back to the topic, I would say they just simply want to avoid the liabilities of misconnects.
Jul 5, 2016, 9:35 pm
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There are two aspects of this change that are irritating to me.
I booked an award trip to Asia using BA Avios for travel in a few weeks. AA-CX-CX. It is a three segment trip, but all three segments were not available at the time of original booking so they were booked one-at-a-time as they became available.
Since BA charges Avios by segment now, it wasn't a problem.
So I have three PNRs because that was the only way to book it, which wasn't an issue under the prior rules. I am now being penalized due to the lack of availability of award space.
Secondly, the rules in place at the time all segments were booked was that they would check the bags through. AFTER booking, they are changing the rules retroactively. That's slimy.
I checked-in for a separate revenue ticket on AA last week and asked if AA would still check my bags through to CX on a separate PNR. Nope. Was told the system will no longer allow them to do this and it cannot be overridden.
Great.
I booked an award trip to Asia using BA Avios for travel in a few weeks. AA-CX-CX. It is a three segment trip, but all three segments were not available at the time of original booking so they were booked one-at-a-time as they became available.
Since BA charges Avios by segment now, it wasn't a problem.
So I have three PNRs because that was the only way to book it, which wasn't an issue under the prior rules. I am now being penalized due to the lack of availability of award space.
Secondly, the rules in place at the time all segments were booked was that they would check the bags through. AFTER booking, they are changing the rules retroactively. That's slimy.
I checked-in for a separate revenue ticket on AA last week and asked if AA would still check my bags through to CX on a separate PNR. Nope. Was told the system will no longer allow them to do this and it cannot be overridden.
Great.
Jul 5, 2016, 10:13 pm
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Has anyone had experience of what happens if you have multiple tickets from multiple carriers on one PNR from an OTA? It would be a nuisance and not really what you or the airline want you to do but, if it works, it would serve them right!
Jul 6, 2016, 3:13 am
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http://www.ausbt.com.au/oneworld-air...ecting-flights
"American Airlines is not changing anything at this time, and we will continue to thru-check bags on multiple PNRs with Oneworld carriers" says Casey Norton, AA's Director of Corporate Communications, in what will be welcome news for many frequent flyers to the USA.
Jul 9, 2016, 10:08 pm
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