Another DONEx originating CPT query
#286
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: A3 *G, AA exePlat, AS MVP 75k Gold, JL sapphire, UA silver
Posts: 4,026
aa invokes the 4.h. rule on my sister pnr..she said it is not possible to argue.
#287
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QR GLD; Bonvoy LT TIT
Posts: 12,653
#288
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: JAX
Programs: Ex-BA/AA/CP/LY staff, BA Executive Club Blue, IHG Diamond, Marriott Silver, Chick-fil-A Red
Posts: 3,569
Every oneworld member can display any e-ticket issued by any oneworld member, even if they're not on the itinerary. S7 can pull up your domestic AA etkt if for some reason they/you really wanted them to. Awards, IT/BT, whatever - all etkts are visible to all airlines (unless something corrupts the etkt record, like an Amadeus etkt containing with a colon [:] in the fare basis field - Sabre can't process that, but then the : shouldn't be used anyway).
Once the etkt is displayed, the oneworld member of your choice can then exchange it, again, even if they're not even 'supposed' to. No limitations on invol reissues but policy restrictions for voluntary changes on certain ticket types, and by fare rules for other types.
Each airline sets its own policy on what they won't do with another member's etkt - most won't apply mileage upgrades, certificates, etc. Some restrictions are as good as a can't do it, even if it's technically possible to do it wrongly.
Source - experience, internal oneworld ticketing agreement
Once the etkt is displayed, the oneworld member of your choice can then exchange it, again, even if they're not even 'supposed' to. No limitations on invol reissues but policy restrictions for voluntary changes on certain ticket types, and by fare rules for other types.
Each airline sets its own policy on what they won't do with another member's etkt - most won't apply mileage upgrades, certificates, etc. Some restrictions are as good as a can't do it, even if it's technically possible to do it wrongly.
Source - experience, internal oneworld ticketing agreement
#289
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 2,894
suppose i issue a rtw ex mpm on aa with 001 ticket.
the ticket has 3 aa segments and 13 non aa segments.
and fly for 60000 miles. the 3 aa segments are short in usa
does the cap 75000 rdm per ticket applies?
with class of service and elite bonus.
the partner portion is supposed to earn almost 135000 miles under old scheme.
the ticket has 3 aa segments and 13 non aa segments.
and fly for 60000 miles. the 3 aa segments are short in usa
does the cap 75000 rdm per ticket applies?
with class of service and elite bonus.
the partner portion is supposed to earn almost 135000 miles under old scheme.
So, I am thinking that we'd still be earning based on flown miles on xONEx tickets and that EQDs will be calculated based on % mileage flown. I really am hoping this would be the case since I hold partly flown DONE4 ex-JNB and keeping ~30K EQM for next year. Time will tell, but I think we have some good examples to keep us a bit positive about this! If this is the case, then the value of DONEx tickets ex-SA or elsewhere would increase when crediting to AA, wouldn't it?
#290
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 2,894
Nobody has reported success
My attempt last year failed - see the first post in this thread - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...cpt-done5.html
I finally ticketed with BA, but when I wanted to re-route my Europe/Middle East segments I ran into the same problem with them. I finally got that sorted - see posts in the linked thread from about October 2015 onwards.
Now that the relevant rule has been simplified we hopefully will not have these types of problems.
My attempt last year failed - see the first post in this thread - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...cpt-done5.html
I finally ticketed with BA, but when I wanted to re-route my Europe/Middle East segments I ran into the same problem with them. I finally got that sorted - see posts in the linked thread from about October 2015 onwards.
Now that the relevant rule has been simplified we hopefully will not have these types of problems.
#291
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,461
However if your first flight was JNB-DOH then it does qualify as an example, because I expect that AA checked the itinerary when it reissued the ticket for you. If this is the case, then well done^
(And for completeness, if your first flight was JNB-LHR, then your ticket wasn't valid in the first place!)
#292
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DCA, EGE, IAD
Programs: MR LTT, BA Gold, AA LTP, UA Silver
Posts: 6,075
It looks like it is by ticket number as the new display under AAdvantage Activity lists the ticket number (last 4 digits) for my current CX issued AONE4.
#293
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: land of aahhhhs (ICT)
Programs: EXP LTPlat
Posts: 492
Time to credit to another FF program?
I was looking at my activity as well. My ticket was issued by BA, and for the segments flown by BA and QR, there is no ticket number, just the airline listed in the ticket number column. For the segments so far flown on AA, there are two ticket numbers; the first for the segments flown immediately after arriving back in US, and another for the DFW-ANC-DFW legs. The base miles and promo miles are listed separately for each leg. I'll be resuming the RTW ticket tomorrow and am anxious to see if yet another number is assigned or the ANC one sticks.
So far I have 61465 RDMs credited to my AA acount for the RTW trip. I fly SFO-JFK tomorrow, which will be getting close to 75K. Then in Sept I'll fly back to JFK where I'll resume the RTW. At that point I'll have to decide where to credit--it looks like different numbers, but will they credit me or not? I hate to call and ask, thus directing attention to an issue that may, or may not, slide by for others. But, again, maybe they never intended to include complex oneworld fares in the limitation.
#294
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DCA, EGE, IAD
Programs: MR LTT, BA Gold, AA LTP, UA Silver
Posts: 6,075
FWIW, I'm AA LT Plat and buy domestic F most of the time (or F award) unless it's a really short flight. So the SWUs and higher up on domestic upgrade list aren't big sellers so I do not feel the need to go for EXP. I travel only 1-3 US domestic flights, so can't justify $450 for lounge access, so BAEC Silver/Gold will provide me the lounge access which is more of a plus, especially at IAD where there is no Admirals club but there is a BA lounge; F Lounges worldwide when traveling in J will be nice too.
#296
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DCA, EGE, IAD
Programs: MR LTT, BA Gold, AA LTP, UA Silver
Posts: 6,075
I've posted an update in post eight, here.
#297
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: land of aahhhhs (ICT)
Programs: EXP LTPlat
Posts: 492
Just book with AA RTW desk as I did for an ex-MPM AONE4 this past Friday. The rule change discussed over the past week in this thread, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...-sheet-24.html, means no more having to jump through hoops.
Incidentally, I should make LTPLT too, this trip. I think about 13K miles to go. Probably after the devaluations, the only value is sapphire lounge access abroad. My last flight DFW-SFO, AA159 Monday morning, had 50 names on the upgrade list.
#298
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Bath, UK
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 1,000
Does anyone know the base fare for a DONE4 ex - that city north of Durban with the Portuguese influence? I have tried using the oneworld tool, and it allows me to choose the direct QR flight to DOH as a starter flight, but I am assuming that you still cannot get a quote with QR being the first carrier?? If that is the case - does anyone have the base fare? Thanks for any assistance.
#299
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: None any more
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assuming you mean MPM then http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26953257-post1509.html
#300
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Bath, UK
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 1,000
assuming you mean MPM then http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26953257-post1509.html