shefgab

Hi!

I'm stuck between choosing a flight back from Asia to Europe for October. Now that BA have changed the BAEC, I think it's time to cash in a wodge of my Avios.

I have narrowed it down to First class, either JL NRT-FRA or CX HKG-LHR.

Now, NRT is more convenient (i'll be in Osaka at the end of my trip I think), but I live in London, so a feeder flight/train either way. The tax on the CX flight is £100 less. Both are reasonably timed day flights on the 777-300ER.

I've flown both F seats before, but both on short hops. I've used both F lounges in NRT and HKG before (possibly prefer CX in HKG over JL in NRT). I love Asian food, but prefer Cantonese over Japanese (just).

A more expensive, and less convenient option is MH F A380 from KUL.

So, can anyone weigh in and make some suggestions about which to take?

Thanks!

Unterwegs

My only recent experience is MH (on the 380) and CX in F. CX is far ahead of MH in basically all aspects (Seat, servce, food). Also flying down to KUL adds some flying time.
Avoid MH.

drewp123

JAL is renovating a lot of their planes. Make sure you at least have the new product if you choose them.

Kachjc

CX seat service/lounges etc- way better than JL, in OW maybe QR comes close but QR does not offer F frequency like CX.

Food- JL anyday- probably the best.
CX food is an embarassment to Hong Kong- a city known for good food...

ycc777

I had two friends recently took both to/from Chicago and they both recommended JL. They felt JL flight attendants were more attentive, and CX attendants were noisy in the galley.

SFO777

A recent similar thread might be on interest to OP.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...er-fly-jl.html

JALPak

JAL has completed retrofitting all the F cabins

JALPak

FYI FRA could lose F service like it did in the current winter schedule if JAL switches this route to 787 again next winter.

anabolism

• CX F is 1-1-1 with wider, more spacious seats.
• JL F is 1-2-1 with narrower seats.

If you are traveling with someone, JL center seats are nice.

• In my opinion, CX has some of the nicest, most comfy bed linens in F, and very comfy and stylish PJs (organic cotton).
• JL has a memory foam pad that is quite nice (and you can choose the firmer or softer side) but their PJs look like track/jogging suits and are very warm.

• JL has Queen of Tea iced tea available in F.
• JL has free Wi-Fi in F.
• JL has Toto Washlets in F (and J). Personally, I poop in my hotel room bathroom before showering and heading to the airport, but for those who do such things on the plane, this is an awesome advantage.

To sum it up, I'd say you won't go wrong either way. I might opt for whichever one is a longer flight (more time to enjoy it). If the flight times are close and I'm solo, I'd go with CX, if with someone I'd go JL.

shefgab

Thanks for all the input guys! I went with CX in the end.

Dr. HFH

CX cabin crew is much better at English.


True, but the pillow is also made from memory foam and, IMO, doesn't work. A pillow needs loft. The memory foam pillows are flat, rectangular pieces of the foam.


Right choice, IMO.

SFO777

Agree that you made the right choice.

anabolism

Having flown both quite a lot, I would not be confident in either generalization. In my experience, cabin crews vary a lot in their attentiveness and English skills both on CX and JL. I've had CX F flights where I had to resort to getting up and going into the galley (or using the call button, which I dislike for casual requests) and other flights where the crew checked periodically if I wanted anything and kept my tea and water refilled without my needing to ask. Likewise I've had flights where I was embarrassed at not being able to comprehend most of what the crew said and other flights where there wasn't any issue at all.