Deciding on a Oneworld Frequent Flyer Program? Help is here.
#1186
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,018
Unfortunately, though these were flown in the Y cabin fare, we don't know your actual fare classes. For AA you earn 1.0 EQM on all AA marketed fares and as a statusholder earn minima of 500 EQM per segment.
But on AB, you may earn less than that. E.g. you might earn 0.5 EQM, so 0.5 x 500 = 250. See
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...es-2016-a.html
But on AB, you may earn less than that. E.g. you might earn 0.5 EQM, so 0.5 x 500 = 250. See
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...es-2016-a.html
For the AB marketed flight this may help (but may not be 100% accurate).
You need to find the actual fare booking class in the economy (generic Y) cabin.
But (few) AA ff miles you received is likley to to be correct
http://www.wheretocredit.com/air-berlin
#1187
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: BRU, DUS, AMS
Programs: AA, BA, SN, KL, IHG, HH, BW, CC
Posts: 16
Thanks for your answer.
All were AA flights (booked + metal), except that one short AB flight.
Where could I see the actual booking class. Isn't Y the booking class?
cfr... the AA website says this:
Details for earning miles
For travel August 1 – December 31, 2016
Cabin Purchased fares booked in** EQMs per mile flown***
Full Fare First/Business F, J 3.00
Discount First/Business A, P, D, I, R 2.00
Economy Y, B, W* 1.50
Economy H, K, M, L, W, V, G, Q, N, O, S 1.00
All were AA flights (booked + metal), except that one short AB flight.
Where could I see the actual booking class. Isn't Y the booking class?
cfr... the AA website says this:
Details for earning miles
For travel August 1 – December 31, 2016
Cabin Purchased fares booked in** EQMs per mile flown***
Full Fare First/Business F, J 3.00
Discount First/Business A, P, D, I, R 2.00
Economy Y, B, W* 1.50
Economy H, K, M, L, W, V, G, Q, N, O, S 1.00
#1188
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,018
This thread is about Deciding on a Oneworld Frequent Flyer Program?
As your questions are about the AA ffp and the recent changes, questions are better asked on the AA forum, as you have been advised. Some very knowledgeable people on this topic in the AA forum
Very unlikely you purchased a full Y fare booking class, Y fare booking class is often very expensive. Can be more than discount business, such as I
www.wheretocredit.com/aa
As your questions are about the AA ffp and the recent changes, questions are better asked on the AA forum, as you have been advised. Some very knowledgeable people on this topic in the AA forum
www.wheretocredit.com/aa
#1189
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 69
I'd love some help please. I have read through this thread but only ended up more confused
Flying Cathay. Live in Melbourne. Travel mostly to LHR, via Asia. Economy.
Which OneWorld FF airline should I choose?
Benefits I'm (eventually) looking for:
-Extra checkin baggage.
-Lounge access
-Chance of upgrade
Thanks.
Flying Cathay. Live in Melbourne. Travel mostly to LHR, via Asia. Economy.
Which OneWorld FF airline should I choose?
Benefits I'm (eventually) looking for:
-Extra checkin baggage.
-Lounge access
-Chance of upgrade
Thanks.
#1190
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,018
I'd love some help please. I have read through this thread but only ended up more confused
Flying Cathay. Live in Melbourne. Travel mostly to LHR, via Asia. Economy.
Which OneWorld FF airline should I choose?
Benefits I'm (eventually) looking for:
-Extra checkin baggage.
-Lounge access
-Chance of upgrade
Flying Cathay. Live in Melbourne. Travel mostly to LHR, via Asia. Economy.
Which OneWorld FF airline should I choose?
Benefits I'm (eventually) looking for:
-Extra checkin baggage.
-Lounge access
-Chance of upgrade
Most of things you want come from status. A few cheapo economy flights will not give that with any ffp
#1192
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Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,018
Most of things you want come from status. A few cheapo economy flights will not give that with any ffp
Generally easier to get status on the airline you have freq flyer membership & fly most
Again (in case you missed)
Read post 1/wiki, post 2 and copy and answer the questions
#1194
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Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 21,018
Asia Miles & Marco Polo are different but associated. If you sign up for MP you become a Asia Miles member.
Look on the Cathay forum stickys for more information. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...polo-club-487/
And http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...hoose-why.html
#1196
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 4
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Primarily: Priority Check-in, Priority Boarding, Economical Upgrades
Secondarily: Lounge Access
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
50-70K, about 30 segments.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Y (but I'd be willing to treat myself to the occasional C if it would also help my status)
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Almost exclusively for pleasure.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
VIE-LHR and VIE-MXP. VIE-MIA or similar twice per year. Operators are usually OS, BA, AB.
(6) What is your home airport?
VIE
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
No. I've been mixing all kinds of carriers without giving much thought to rewards programs, but I'd focus on a
single program now.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
No preference yet. Most common: OS, BA, AB.
I think I could cover basically all of my travel with BA and AB, so I would be looking into a program that would help me achieve the goals of (1) as soon as possible.
Thanks in advance for any advice!
(Full disclosure: I placed a similar question in the *A forum because I my guess is that *A would fit me more, but obviously I could be wrong).
Primarily: Priority Check-in, Priority Boarding, Economical Upgrades
Secondarily: Lounge Access
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
50-70K, about 30 segments.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Y (but I'd be willing to treat myself to the occasional C if it would also help my status)
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Almost exclusively for pleasure.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
VIE-LHR and VIE-MXP. VIE-MIA or similar twice per year. Operators are usually OS, BA, AB.
(6) What is your home airport?
VIE
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
No. I've been mixing all kinds of carriers without giving much thought to rewards programs, but I'd focus on a
single program now.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
No preference yet. Most common: OS, BA, AB.
I think I could cover basically all of my travel with BA and AB, so I would be looking into a program that would help me achieve the goals of (1) as soon as possible.
Thanks in advance for any advice!
(Full disclosure: I placed a similar question in the *A forum because I my guess is that *A would fit me more, but obviously I could be wrong).
#1197
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 4
(Disclaimer: I posted a similar message in the *A forum because my initial impression is that *A would suit me better. However, I could be wrong, so I hope it's OK if I ask here as well).
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Primarily: Priority Check-in, Priority Boarding, Economical Upgrades
Secondarily: Lounge Access
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
50-70K over 30-ish segments
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Y (but I'd be willing to treat myself to the occasional C if it would also help my status)
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Almost exclusively for pleasure
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Mostly within Europe, with one or two intercontinental roundtrips each year
(6) What is your home airport?
VIE
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
No. I've been mixing all kinds of carriers without giving much thought to rewards programs, but I'd like to focus on a single program now.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
I honestly don't have much preference beyond avoiding low-cost carriers. I currently fly mostly OS and AB because they fly me non-stop to most European destinations. BA would be in third place.
Simply put, I don't care too much about award miles (they are a nice plus), I'd rather prefer to achieve a certain status quickly such that it makes my travels more convenient.
Thanks in advance for any advice!
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Primarily: Priority Check-in, Priority Boarding, Economical Upgrades
Secondarily: Lounge Access
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
50-70K over 30-ish segments
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Y (but I'd be willing to treat myself to the occasional C if it would also help my status)
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Almost exclusively for pleasure
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Mostly within Europe, with one or two intercontinental roundtrips each year
(6) What is your home airport?
VIE
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
No. I've been mixing all kinds of carriers without giving much thought to rewards programs, but I'd like to focus on a single program now.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
I honestly don't have much preference beyond avoiding low-cost carriers. I currently fly mostly OS and AB because they fly me non-stop to most European destinations. BA would be in third place.
Simply put, I don't care too much about award miles (they are a nice plus), I'd rather prefer to achieve a certain status quickly such that it makes my travels more convenient.
Thanks in advance for any advice!
#1198
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SIN
Programs: CX DM, SQ KF Gold
Posts: 980
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Redeem award flights in business or first class, extra checked baggage allowance.
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
50-75k, 25% business (Long-haul), 75% economy (Short-haul)
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
(First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest)
Discount biz, Y+ when premium over Y 10-20%, otherwise Y in 50-100% mileage earning fare buckets
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Can choose, travel for both, am self-employed.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Short-haul:
- SIN-HKG, currently on UA
- SIN-PEK/PVG, on SQ
Long-haul:
- SIN-US (Both coasts), mainly on SQ
- SIN-EUR, mainly on SQ
Please note that I will usually look for discount biz fares to cheapest arrival airport in Europe/USA and/or cheapest departure airport around SIN (KUL, CGK, SGN, BKK, HKG, etc) for the long-haul flights, before I take a quick short-haul hop to my final destination. So cost of ticket is far more important than minimising stops or travel time, and for that reason QR fares look very attractive for Asia-Europe (And v.v.) travel.
(6) What is your home airport?
(SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
SIN
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
No status, no significant miles hoarded anywhere. Have Gold status on SQ, but not PPS.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Most flown on: SQ
Other preferred airlines: CX, BR, KE, NH, QR, LX
Redeem award flights in business or first class, extra checked baggage allowance.
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
50-75k, 25% business (Long-haul), 75% economy (Short-haul)
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
(First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest)
Discount biz, Y+ when premium over Y 10-20%, otherwise Y in 50-100% mileage earning fare buckets
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Can choose, travel for both, am self-employed.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Short-haul:
- SIN-HKG, currently on UA
- SIN-PEK/PVG, on SQ
Long-haul:
- SIN-US (Both coasts), mainly on SQ
- SIN-EUR, mainly on SQ
Please note that I will usually look for discount biz fares to cheapest arrival airport in Europe/USA and/or cheapest departure airport around SIN (KUL, CGK, SGN, BKK, HKG, etc) for the long-haul flights, before I take a quick short-haul hop to my final destination. So cost of ticket is far more important than minimising stops or travel time, and for that reason QR fares look very attractive for Asia-Europe (And v.v.) travel.
(6) What is your home airport?
(SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
SIN
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
No status, no significant miles hoarded anywhere. Have Gold status on SQ, but not PPS.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Most flown on: SQ
Other preferred airlines: CX, BR, KE, NH, QR, LX
#1199
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11
Hi everyone,
I am about to start a two years long project with requires monthly travel en route WAW-ATL and I have a puzzle to solve:
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
- upgrades on travel
- good award redemption rates
- better award access
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
123036 miles: all BA metal, CE+CW
~50000 miles: everything else, mostly economy, no real pattern here.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
For work: business. For pleasure: economy.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Airline can be freely chosen, for this particular project it will be BA biz (preferred) or KL/AF/DL biz (backup option).
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
In this case: WAW-LHR-ATL on BA (strongly preferred)
Alternative: WAW-AMS/CDG-ATL on KL/AF/DL (only when necessary)
I travel to USA & Canada once-twice per year for vacation.
(6) What is your home airport?
WAW: Warsaw, Poland
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
BAEC Bronze with ~60k Avios.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
For the purpose of this calculation: BA. Most common in general: LO.
At the moment I am considering the following options:
a) credit everything to BAEC. Upside: including bonuses it should result in about 500k Avios per year, with 4 Upgrade vouchers yearly when 2.5k & 3.5k TP thresholds are met.
b) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then start crediting everything to Alaska Airlines MVP. They seem to have generous rates for BA CW and award-redemption partnership with various airlines across the globe. Also, when I am "forced" to use KL/AF/DL instead of regular BA then I can credit miles to AS MVP account. I enjoy spending vacation in North America, so AS awards & upgrades can come pretty handy.
c) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then switch to another OW program?
No idea which one could be better.
- there are no reasonable WAW-ATL connections on *A carriers
- all credit card related factors can be dismissed upfront.
I will appreciate any help and suggestions.
I am about to start a two years long project with requires monthly travel en route WAW-ATL and I have a puzzle to solve:
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
- upgrades on travel
- good award redemption rates
- better award access
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
123036 miles: all BA metal, CE+CW
~50000 miles: everything else, mostly economy, no real pattern here.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
For work: business. For pleasure: economy.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Airline can be freely chosen, for this particular project it will be BA biz (preferred) or KL/AF/DL biz (backup option).
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
In this case: WAW-LHR-ATL on BA (strongly preferred)
Alternative: WAW-AMS/CDG-ATL on KL/AF/DL (only when necessary)
I travel to USA & Canada once-twice per year for vacation.
(6) What is your home airport?
WAW: Warsaw, Poland
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
BAEC Bronze with ~60k Avios.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
For the purpose of this calculation: BA. Most common in general: LO.
At the moment I am considering the following options:
a) credit everything to BAEC. Upside: including bonuses it should result in about 500k Avios per year, with 4 Upgrade vouchers yearly when 2.5k & 3.5k TP thresholds are met.
b) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then start crediting everything to Alaska Airlines MVP. They seem to have generous rates for BA CW and award-redemption partnership with various airlines across the globe. Also, when I am "forced" to use KL/AF/DL instead of regular BA then I can credit miles to AS MVP account. I enjoy spending vacation in North America, so AS awards & upgrades can come pretty handy.
c) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then switch to another OW program?
No idea which one could be better.
- there are no reasonable WAW-ATL connections on *A carriers
- all credit card related factors can be dismissed upfront.
I will appreciate any help and suggestions.
#1200
Moderator, OneWorld
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
Programs: RAA RIP; AA ExEXP
Posts: 11,802
Hi everyone,
I am about to start a two years long project with requires monthly travel en route WAW-ATL and I have a puzzle to solve:
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
- upgrades on travel
- good award redemption rates
- better award access
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
123036 miles: all BA metal, CE+CW
~50000 miles: everything else, mostly economy, no real pattern here.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
For work: business. For pleasure: economy.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Airline can be freely chosen, for this particular project it will be BA biz (preferred) or KL/AF/DL biz (backup option).
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
In this case: WAW-LHR-ATL on BA (strongly preferred)
Alternative: WAW-AMS/CDG-ATL on KL/AF/DL (only when necessary)
I travel to USA & Canada once-twice per year for vacation.
(6) What is your home airport?
WAW: Warsaw, Poland
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
BAEC Bronze with ~60k Avios.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
For the purpose of this calculation: BA. Most common in general: LO.
At the moment I am considering the following options:
a) credit everything to BAEC. Upside: including bonuses it should result in about 500k Avios per year, with 4 Upgrade vouchers yearly when 2.5k & 3.5k TP thresholds are met.
b) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then start crediting everything to Alaska Airlines MVP. They seem to have generous rates for BA CW and award-redemption partnership with various airlines across the globe. Also, when I am "forced" to use KL/AF/DL instead of regular BA then I can credit miles to AS MVP account. I enjoy spending vacation in North America, so AS awards & upgrades can come pretty handy.
c) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then switch to another OW program?
No idea which one could be better.
- there are no reasonable WAW-ATL connections on *A carriers
- all credit card related factors can be dismissed upfront.
I will appreciate any help and suggestions.
I am about to start a two years long project with requires monthly travel en route WAW-ATL and I have a puzzle to solve:
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
- upgrades on travel
- good award redemption rates
- better award access
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
123036 miles: all BA metal, CE+CW
~50000 miles: everything else, mostly economy, no real pattern here.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
For work: business. For pleasure: economy.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Airline can be freely chosen, for this particular project it will be BA biz (preferred) or KL/AF/DL biz (backup option).
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
In this case: WAW-LHR-ATL on BA (strongly preferred)
Alternative: WAW-AMS/CDG-ATL on KL/AF/DL (only when necessary)
I travel to USA & Canada once-twice per year for vacation.
(6) What is your home airport?
WAW: Warsaw, Poland
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
BAEC Bronze with ~60k Avios.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
For the purpose of this calculation: BA. Most common in general: LO.
At the moment I am considering the following options:
a) credit everything to BAEC. Upside: including bonuses it should result in about 500k Avios per year, with 4 Upgrade vouchers yearly when 2.5k & 3.5k TP thresholds are met.
b) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then start crediting everything to Alaska Airlines MVP. They seem to have generous rates for BA CW and award-redemption partnership with various airlines across the globe. Also, when I am "forced" to use KL/AF/DL instead of regular BA then I can credit miles to AS MVP account. I enjoy spending vacation in North America, so AS awards & upgrades can come pretty handy.
c) credit to BAEC until Gold is reached, then switch to another OW program?
No idea which one could be better.
- there are no reasonable WAW-ATL connections on *A carriers
- all credit card related factors can be dismissed upfront.
I will appreciate any help and suggestions.