ajeleonard

The big question of AA vs other Oneworld is whether you value upgrades (AA) or lounge access (non-AA) as your status perk

BA Executive Club may work better than Marco Polo if you go non-AA

You'd still nearly get Sapphire status from your Asia trip, plus you get extra miles when flying BA, but also IB and AA as well

BA's domestic US redemption rates for non-stops are reasonably good, although transatlantic are not with fuel surcharges

Gardyloo

Moving the above two posts to the "Which OW FFP" sticky thread.

Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator

krist1an

Hi,
I have used BAEC for about 10 years now, but contemplating if I would be better off by switching to AA. I've had Gold status with BAEC for 7 of the last ten years. Currently silver. I recently started in a new job which involves a lot of travelling (at least 1 intercon in C-class every 3-4 weeks, plus OSL-LHR/AMS/ZRH about once a week). I have had three intercon in C already this year, have SAS Eurobonus Diamond (*A). I hate the taxes BA imposes on award-tickets, and with the outdated seats in CW I try to avoid BA on the long-haul flights. Will use award tickets for OSL-US/OSL-Asia.

I want to spread out my points between at least two programs, and OW and SA are the alliances where the flights from Norway suits best to the destinations I'll travel to for work.

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Good award redemption rates (only C/F), better award access, Emrald status in OW for lounge access.

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
>50000 miles - >50 flights

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Business

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
I travel for work, and I can choose airline myself.

(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Oslo-Europe (about 40 roundtrips per year). Oslo-Asia/US 10-15 roundtrips per year.

(6) What is your home airport?
OSL

(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
BAEC Silver (250k Avios). SK Diamond (500k miles)

(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
For OW: BA, Cathay Pacific, Finnair, AA

If anyone can give some guidance to what FFP in OW you think I would be best off by choosing, I would love to hear your thoughts.

My first two trips on OW are coming up the next two weeks:
Trip 1: OSL-LHR-PEK (BA) SHA-HKG (CW) HKG-LHR-OSL (BA) - C Class
Trip 2: OSL-HEL (AY) HEL-NRT (JL) HKG-LHR-OSL (BA) - C Class

So I should choose the FFP before Monday.

cruciferous

Hi all! Thanks for your help, I'm a anewbie...

After building some status with *A, I need a OW program. Currently live near SFO, work HQ in Madrid (once a year), travel to LAX for business (every 1-2 months), family in LON (twice a year). I think its between BA and AA but both seem to get a lot of flack here for devaluations...

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Reply: Upgrades then lounge access
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Reply: 25000-50000 25-50 flights
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Reply: Economy or Premium Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Both work and pleasure. Some flexibility with airlines
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Reply: US Domestic and USA - Europe
(6) What is your home airport?
Reply: SFO
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
Reply: *A Gold with TK. Wife has a bunch of AA points, no status
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Reply: Mostly *A until now, US domestic with AA haven't impressed me

Thanks again for help, appreciate any replies.
Cruciferous
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tobitronics

Hi all,

Used to be (still am) a ST Elite +, however I have got some flights in J on OW carriers coming up and I need to decide which program to credit them to. Trips are as follows:

Trip 1: 6 segments (2 domestic US on AA, 2 inter-EU on BA/IB, 2 intercontinental on AA) all in J/D/I booking class

Trip 2: 4 segments: 2 inter-EU (LHR-HEL) in J on BA operated by AY, 2 inter-EU (HEL-TLL) in flex-economy (Y) on BA operated by AY.

Trip 3: 4 segments, all long-haul J (booking class R) on QR

Figured that these flights will land me the highest tier on somewhat any OW carrier's FF programme, but I am asking here for experiences with different programmes with respect to benefits as well as miles value/redemption.

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Reply: Upgrades, then lounge access/priority
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Reply: 25-35 flights, 50/50 between EU and intercontinental (North America, South America and Central- + East-Asia)
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Reply: , 90% of the time lowest price economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Only pleasure as of now, choice based on alliance (FF status) and price
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Reply: For now KLM, inter European routes
(6) What is your home airport?
Reply: AMS
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
Reply: ST Gold on KLM/AF with around 70k miles in reserve
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Reply: Stayed loyal to ST until now, I like KLM/AF (also most flights on these).

Hope you guys can point me in a right direction

chris449

Hi Everyone!

Can I squeeze any value out of this...

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Reply: Lounge access, then reward seat redemption, then upgrade redemption
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Reply: Discount Y: 36,000 (as 2 sectors per month). PE Y: 8000 (2 sectors annually)
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Reply: Cheapest economy on full service airline for work, cheapest premium economy for leisure
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Choice of airline, most miles for work
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
(US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: HKG to KUL, SIN, MEL. Up until now, most of my flights were HKG-SIN with SQ due to their included flexibility at the same price point as CX. My pattern has changed though, spending more time in KUL than SIN
(6) What is your home airport?
Reply: HKG
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
Reply: VA gold (achieved through SYD-MEL-BNE and HKG-SIN, expiring at end of month, considering VA marketed HKG-SIN-MEL return to requal but don't think it's worth the expense)
21k VA
23k QFF
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Reply: CX, SQ, QF (company policy of no MH)

I'm looking to hear opinions about re-jigging my goals and instead chase upgrades on my annual HKG-MEL flights rather than lounge access.

Occasionally on HKG-KUL/SIN I'm in a CX booking class that earns QFF miles, but most often it's not.

Also looking at getting the HKD Amex (not elite) with MPC membership

If I change to chasing upgrades (from discount Y?), am I better off with QFF or AM/MPC?

MancMonkey

I travel quite a bit between the US and Saudi Arabia for work. Regrettably, I do not have the luxury of choosing my own itineraries. For years all of my work-related travel has been on Skyteam carriers and I've been crediting the miles to Delta Skymiles. However, my employer has now decided that we will be flying with Oneworld carriers and I am a loss as to which OW frequent flyer program to use. Some general info about my flying habits:

1) I appreciate Delta's operations & service so all my domestic flying will still be with DL.

2) I don't give a damn about credit card sign-up bonuses.

3) I care more for elite status then I do for earning redeemable miles; but, I have no idea which carrier will be getting the lion's share of my long-haul business.

4) Some travel may be on Emirates, which I can credit to JAL's program.

So does anyone have a favorite stand-out OW program.

Thanks!

JAXBA

Welcome to FT MancMonkey! There's actually an ongoing thread about choosing which programme over on the oneworld thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...help-here.html

I've asked a friendly mod to move this over for you.

UKtravelbear

Given your two complaint threads it won't be BA!

But the http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/oneworld-411/

would be the best place to start

KARFA

You say that, but with a child who also flies and would collect miles perhaps BAEC with a household account?

Prospero

Please continue this discussion in the oneworld forum

Prospero
Moderator: BA forum

pvgman

With AA awarding miles base on spends + the devaluation, I am not sure they still are the best option for me,

I value earning and burning mile above all, I was considering BA, I fly CX, MH and QR on 75% of my flight, so no bonus earning as when flying BA flight.

It looks like there is no good programme anymore with easy earning and good redemption rate...

pbd456

unlike star alliance and skyteam, oneworld has more tier of elite. it is not clear that u can earn the highest tier on oneworld alliance with your current booking. for example, ba requires 1500 tier point for gold. amd your long haul on qr with 4 segments get u 560 tier points only. u would still need 4 segments on ba even if u have 1500 tier points.

aa requires 100k eqm for emerald, assuming your qr long haul has 20k flown miles, and r class earns 1.5 per miles, which lands you 30k.eqm which is 30% of the requirement.

sabbasolo

I would appreciate some help here - I thought I knew a lot about FF programs but OW is so different - haven't looked at it since I was BA Gold 20 years ago. Marco Polo / Asia Miles doesn't seem very attractive, since they will only match me to silver in the best case, and there is no elite bonus on miles earned.

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?

lots of award tickets for my wife and kids, extra baggage allowance, better award access, priority services when flying the airline. I would hope for a jump start with a status match too.

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Reply:
75,000-125,000 miles, largely long-haul in J. Only 15-25 sectors

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Reply:
Cheap Business, moderately cheap Y on US domestic flights

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Yes, I choose - 75% work, 25% pleasure

(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Reply:
UA TLV-USA and domestic USA. LX/LH also to USA and South America. Until now TK/SQ to Asia and Australia. a few trips from TLV to Europe. Planning to switch the Asia and Australia flights at least to CX since they now have one stop TLV-HKG-MEL
I have two TLV-HKG returns on CX booked in J (D class) for April/May.

(6) What is your home airport?

Reply: TLV

(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?

Reply: UA 1K/MM, Chase UR too

(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Reply:
UA, LX, LH, SQ starting to fly CX

cassiohui

I am thinking of joining BA because of their much-more generous Tier Point scheme compared to Marco Polo's club points, despite being in Marco Polo for almost 10 years. New job meant I'm flying a lot more than before (no J no F though) so lounge access is much loved.

My target is OW Sapphire.

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Reply: lounge access
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
(<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?)
Reply: 25000-50000. 25-50 flights probably.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
(First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest)
Reply: Economy/cheapest
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Yes, Both
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
(US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: APAC/Europe
(6) What is your home airport?
(SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: HKG
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
(AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: CX Marco Polo Green (90 ClubPoints)
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Reply: oneworld obviously but don't like Qatar as they strictly adhere to the "one hand-carry" baggage policy - no backpack + carry-on suitcase. Was forced to check in backpack as i had my laptop in my carry-on. Never had problem with KA/CX/AY/EK/etc

Thank you very much for your time.