So it just took me 35 minutes to case clear security to get to my vegas flight. And I was the only one in line!
DFW A terminal
Tsa: id please
Me: that is my id (pointing to my PASSPORT)
Tsa: sir where are going?
Me: las vegas
Tsa: last time I checked a map, las vegas is in the US!
Me: and?
Tsa: well then you don't need a passport to go there
Me: and?
Tsa: so your passport is not valid id for this trip
Me: excuse me?
Tsa: yes I need a government issued id
Me: my passport is government issued, its issued by the government of the netherlands, would you like me to show you where that is on a map?
Tsa: that government is not recognized by the tsa. And I know that the netherlands is in norway. So I need to see a drivers license.
Me: the government of the netherlands is not recognized by the tsa? That's dissappointing, im sure my queen will be absolutely distraught to hear that an id checker at the dfw airport is not recognizing her as a legitimate government. Its a good thing though that the tsa doesn't set foreign policy, and that that's left to the state department. Have you informed condileeza rice that the tsa is now deciding what governments will be recognized by the us government? Are you guys the jokers that decided to regonize kosovo as an independent state?
Tsa: condeleeza who?
Me: So my passport really isn't going to work? And you need to see a drivers license?
Tsa: yes
Me: well here's the problem ( I hand him my dutch drivers license ) see this is also issued by that government that you don't recognize.
Tsa: hmmm.... Don't you have anything that's issued by the government in the us?
Me: I have my greencard but the problem is, like you said las vegas is in the us, according to the map you just checked, the same one that told you the netherlands is in norway. So since I don't need a greencard to travel to las vegas, my greencard won't work either even though it was issued by the dept of homeland security, the same part of the us government that the tsa is a part of.
Tsa: yes that's true. Ok so you don't have any valid id for travel in the US?
Me: apparently not, since my passport and drivers license is not recognized by the tsa and my greencard is not valid for travel within ths us.
Tsa: ok well you can travel without id, you'll just need to go through additional screening.
Me: great
Tsa: I need a male assist.
Ten minutes later
tsa2: hi sir
Me: hi
tsa2: im going to go through your bags and then wand you, is that ok?
Me: sure
tsa2: sir what's this? (pointing to my passport)
Me: that's my passport
tsa2: but you told the id screener that you don't have id
Me: that's right
tsa2: so you lied to him
Me: no
tsa2: no?
Me: according to his requirements I did not have id that met his requirements for travel.
tsa2: huh?
Me: since im going to vegas, apparently my passport is not valid for traveling there, because accoridng to his map las vegas is in the us and since its in the us and I don't need a passport to travel there, my passport is not valid for travel.
tsa2: huh?
Me: exactly
tsa2: ok?
There's no place like home, there's no place like home...... Toto I don't think we're in Holland anymore.
So it just took me 35 minutes to case clear security to get to my vegas flight. And I was the only one in line!
DFW A terminal
Tsa: id please
Me: that is my id (pointing to my PASSPORT)
Tsa: sir where are going?
Me: las vegas
Tsa: last time I checked a map, las vegas is in the US!
Me: and?
Tsa: well then you don't need a passport to go there
Me: and?
Tsa: so your passport is not valid id for this trip
Me: excuse me?
Tsa: yes I need a government issued id
Me: my passport is government issued, its issued by the government of the netherlands, would you like me to show you where that is on a map?
Tsa: that government is not recognized by the tsa. And I know that the netherlands is in norway. So I need to see a drivers license.
Me: the government of the netherlands is not recognized by the tsa? That's dissappointing, im sure my queen will be absolutely distraught to hear that an id checker at the dfw airport is not recognizing her as a legitimate government. Its a good thing though that the tsa doesn't set foreign policy, and that that's left to the state department. Have you informed condileeza rice that the tsa is now deciding what governments will be recognized by the us government? Are you guys the jokers that decided to regonize kosovo as an independent state?
Tsa: condeleeza who?
Me: So my passport really isn't going to work? And you need to see a drivers license?
Tsa: yes
Me: well here's the problem ( I hand him my dutch drivers license ) see this is also issued by that government that you don't recognize.
Tsa: hmmm.... Don't you have anything that's issued by the government in the us?
Me: I have my greencard but the problem is, like you said las vegas is in the us, according to the map you just checked, the same one that told you the netherlands is in norway. So since I don't need a greencard to travel to las vegas, my greencard won't work either even though it was issued by the dept of homeland security, the same part of the us government that the tsa is a part of.
Tsa: yes that's true. Ok so you don't have any valid id for travel in the US?
Me: apparently not, since my passport and drivers license is not recognized by the tsa and my greencard is not valid for travel within ths us.
Tsa: ok well you can travel without id, you'll just need to go through additional screening.
Me: great
Tsa: I need a male assist.
Ten minutes later
tsa2: hi sir
Me: hi
tsa2: im going to go through your bags and then wand you, is that ok?
Me: sure
tsa2: sir what's this? (pointing to my passport)
Me: that's my passport
tsa2: but you told the id screener that you don't have id
Me: that's right
tsa2: so you lied to him
Me: no
tsa2: no?
Me: according to his requirements I did not have id that met his requirements for travel.
tsa2: huh?
Me: since im going to vegas, apparently my passport is not valid for traveling there, because accoridng to his map las vegas is in the us and since its in the us and I don't need a passport to travel there, my passport is not valid for travel.
tsa2: huh?
Me: exactly
tsa2: ok?
There's no place like home, there's no place like home...... Toto I don't think we're in Holland anymore.
You are more patient than I am. I would have stood my ground, not accepted the secondary and waited for the supervisor. And then wait for the apology from the first TSA screener who is not smarter than a 5th grader.
Netherlands in Norway is a good one. Is there a maximum IQ for TSA screeners?
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
Please tell me this was a joke. I'd escalate this so high at DFW they'd be scraping people off the ceiling.
please
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Originally Posted by Big_Dutch
Its the god's honest truth. Sad isn't it?
om(f)g-that is truly sad
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Originally Posted by wharvey
Please, Please, Please take the time to report this.
That is soooooooooooooooooo sad.
yes but to the media and not to the tsa blog as it will probably never get posted as remember, they "self censor" so if you don't play nice/agree with them, poof
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Originally Posted by doober
I'd copy and paste it to the TSA blog and also to everyone at DFW as well as the consulate in Houston. I hope you got TSA1's name.
Just when you think it can't get any worse.....where do they find these pea brained individuals?
see my comments above re: posting to the tsa blog-go for the media and as to where do they find these people? let me go out front and turn over a rock.
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just my humble opinion but i used to try and stop hockey pucks so what do i know . Nighthawks fans are everywhere
So it just took me 35 minutes to case clear security to get to my vegas flight. And I was the only one in line!
DFW A terminal
Tsa: id please
Me: that is my id (pointing to my PASSPORT)
Tsa: sir where are going?
Me: las vegas
Tsa: last time I checked a map, las vegas is in the US!
...
Me: the government of the netherlands is not recognized by the tsa? That's dissappointing, im sure my queen will be absolutely distraught to hear that an id checker at the dfw airport is not recognizing her as a legitimate government. Its a good thing though that the tsa doesn't set foreign policy, and that that's left to the state department. Have you informed condileeza rice that the tsa is now deciding what governments will be recognized by the us government? Are you guys the jokers that decided to regonize kosovo as an independent state?
Tsa: condeleeza who?
...
There's no place like home, there's no place like home...... Toto I don't think we're in Holland anymore.
Well, +1 point for at least knowing that Las Vegas is in the United States.
This is one of items on a long list of reasons why I want to get a non-US passport. My reply would have gone something like: "Well, this is an international flight. That sign on the wall says 'Texas, it's like a whole other country,' right?"
As someone who lives near, drives through and no-longer-supports DFW Airport, I'm ashamed on your behalf. To think that the screeners at DAL (which is barred from having any international flights) have taken my wife's (hand written ) Uruguayan passport for a purely domestic flight makes this even more crazy.
Edited to add: I included the bit about Condoleezza Rice because that's too funny to leave unquoted. Fourth in line to the Presidency, and even a government employee can't be bothered to know who the Secretary of State is? Oh, and while we're at it...
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Originally Posted by Big_Dutch
Tsa: that government is not recognized by the tsa. And I know that the netherlands is in norway. So I need to see a drivers license.
Sorry to hear about your takeover by Norway. Hope you like the fjords.
You don't need a visa to go to Vegas....
. Nighthawks fans are everywhere
) Uruguayan passport for a purely domestic flight makes this even more crazy.
