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Old Nov 3, 09, 1:47 pm   #46
 
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Well that's fine and dandy but I think a clearer idea is beginning to emerge as to why you might have been made redundant.
I know if I was looking to hire someone intransigence and inflexibility would count against them very much.
Also the fact that you have come on here on each occasion you were canned to complain and explain to total strangers also suggests someone with a weak character who needs constant validation and re-assurance.
Perhaps you might consider self-employment as an option although to be honest it's much more difficult to stand by your principles when there isn't someone else paying your salary.
Funny. Please cite where I've sought "constant validation and re-assurance (sic)." Folks come to Omni everyday and share snippets of their lives. I've simply done the same. Not once did I say "woe is me", nor did I "complain" about anything job-related.

I'll take my chances in the job market, confident that I've done the right thing and that my character remains intact.
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Old Nov 3, 09, 1:55 pm   #47
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I agree...it's OMNI, we post all sorts of random things here.

Have fun on the course dchristiva... I always enjoy a little downtime between gigs, although I've never had a gig end with security getting involved! Were they afraid you were getting ready to throw knucks with your boss? LOL...
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Old Nov 3, 09, 2:31 pm   #48
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Well that's fine and dandy but I think a clearer idea is beginning to emerge as to why you might have been made redundant.
I know if I was looking to hire someone intransigence and inflexibility would count against them very much.
Also the fact that you have come on here on each occasion you were canned to complain and explain to total strangers also suggests someone with a weak character who needs constant validation and re-assurance.
Perhaps you might consider self-employment as an option although to be honest it's much more difficult to stand by your principles when there isn't someone else paying your salary.
In my experience, this is bad advice insofar as in my experience, standing by your principles no matter what might make you butt heads with people, but in the end you earn invaluable respect for having done the right thing.

Obviously, every case is different, and there is being "stubborn and intransigent" and, OTOH, being principled and uncompromising. dchristiva strikes me as the latter, and I can tell you that someone like that is going to go a lot farther than just another bright sellout.

Cheers.

(And also as I said initially when this thread was started, everything happens for a reason, and if you get passed over because you 'won't fit in', it's likely a place with a bad reputation, nobody likes working there, and the wrong people often end up getting promoted for the wrong reasons.)
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Old Nov 3, 09, 3:03 pm   #49
 
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Funny. Please cite where I've sought "constant validation and re-assurance (sic)." Folks come to Omni everyday and share snippets of their lives. I've simply done the same. Not once did I say "woe is me", nor did I "complain" about anything job-related.

I'll take my chances in the job market, confident that I've done the right thing and that my character remains intact.
The very fact that you've come on here each time you've been fired to whine about how badly you've been treated is seeking validation.
Reading your posts again it's quite clear that you're arrogant, hostile and actually quite dumb.
You say your first boss was " a spineless weasel " with his " head up his a$$ " and you wanted to " pound his head in the sand " so it's no surprise you had to be escorted to the exit door by security. It's what they normally do with loose cannons.
And then surprise, surprise you didn't see " eye-to-eye " with your second boss.Maybe it was because she's a woman.
Obviously we only have your side of the story - but while being sacked once is unfortunate, twice does indicate a pattern developing.
Certainly if one of my employees behaved to me in the way you did I'd quite happily throw them out of the front door myself.
You need to take a big dose of reality and wash it down with a huge swallow of humility.
Or as previous posters have suggested, walk the walk instead of just exercising the jaw, and set up your own business.
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Old Nov 3, 09, 3:16 pm   #50
 
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The very fact that you've come on here each time you've been fired to whine about how badly you've been treated is seeking validation.
Reading your posts again it's quite clear that you're arrogant, hostile and actually quite dumb.
You say your first boss was " a spineless weasel " with his " head up his a$$ " and you wanted to " pound his head in the sand " so it's no surprise you had to be escorted to the exit door by security. It's what they normally do with loose cannons.
And then surprise, surprise you didn't see " eye-to-eye " with your second boss.Maybe it was because she's a woman.
Obviously we only have your side of the story - but while being sacked once is unfortunate, twice does indicate a pattern developing.
Certainly if one of my employees behaved to me in the way you did I'd quite happily throw them out of the front door myself.
You need to take a big dose of reality and wash it down with a huge swallow of humility.
Or as previous posters have suggested, walk the walk instead of just exercising the jaw, and set up your own business.
I find myself wondering if reading comprehension is your strong suit. I'm not how you're interpreting "arrogant" and "hostile" from my posts.

I can't find one instance in my postings in this thread where I "whined" about anything. In the first instance, I took full responsibility for my actions and was happy to leave, as evidenced by this quote:

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Before any of you get all worked up and say that I deserved what I got - I AGREE . My ex-boss was ticking me off so much that I was looking for a fight with him nearly every day over the last two weeks, and I never really thought much of him anyway after he showed his inability to be a team player a few months ago. I don't feel entitled to anything, and in many ways I feel relieved.
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What's my point, then? Nothing, other than this forum gives me a place to rant and say MY EX-BOSS IS A SPINELESS WEASEL! But hey, no hard feelings. I'm actually quite happy, and I expect my golf handicap to decrease quite a bit over what's left of the season.
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In the second instance, I said this:

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Well, it's happened again. I was told yesterday that my services are no longer required by my employer. They dissolved another group and had to find homes for those folks, so I was left without a chair when the music stopped. Once again, my boss and I never saw eye-to-eye, so I'm not surprised that she didn't defend me. Heck, she may have offered me up, for all I know. Anyhow, I have until the end of Jan. (which should make for an interesting 3 months) plus some severance. I'll look for other work inside the firm, but it might not be a bad time to look outside, too. Got to keep my options open. Tough times, but, in some ways, I'm looking forward to it.
Again, I fail to see any evidence of whining or looking for validation. Both times I said I was "relieved", "quite happy" and "looking forward to it", meaning the challenge of finding a new opportunity. I'm not sure how I could demonstrate a more positive attitude about the situation.

So if I challenged your inability to be a team-player or your so-called "expertise" in an area, you'd happily throw me out the front door? Interesting perspective.
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Reading your posts again it's quite clear that you're arrogant, hostile and actually quite dumb.
I'm thinking a TOC violation here.

Maybe you two share some qualities?
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So if I challenged your inability to be a team-player or your so-called "expertise" in an area, you'd happily throw me out the front door? Interesting perspective.
Like it or not Its all about approach. There is a right way and a wrong way to do this IME.
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Old Nov 3, 09, 3:30 pm   #53
 
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Like it or not Its all about approach. There is a right way and a wrong way to do this IME.
I don't disagree. In the first instance, I never said I chose the "right" way to convey my displeasure with the boss' micro-managing style. And I took full responsibility, saying that I got what I deserved.
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Old Nov 3, 09, 4:13 pm   #54
 
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The bottom line is you got sacked twice from jobs where you didn't get on with your boss and on one occasion it was thought wise to have you escorted from the building by security.
Maybe you should work on your attitude instead of your golf.
Or find a new line of work.
Any vacancies for lighthouse-keepers ?
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Old Nov 3, 09, 7:05 pm   #55
 
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I couldn't disagree with you more and I've tried to ensure enough financial stability to sustain a prolonged period of unemployment. Not standing by principles at all costs leads one to be a spineless weasel, particularly in my line of work. The world's got enough of those.
I like your style. Never kneel.
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I like your style. Never kneel.
As satisfying as that maybe to the ego, unless you've won the lottery its not a very good career choice. Your boss can get the same message by a resignation, and no bridges are burned.
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As satisfying as that maybe to the ego, unless you've won the lottery its not a very good career choice. Your boss can get the same message by a resignation, and no bridges are burned.
Fair enough LS, but the OP has made it abundantly clear that he'd never forgive himself if he did that.
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Fair enough LS, but the OP has made it abundantly clear that he'd never forgive himself if he did that.
True, but only in the first case. In the 2nd it sounds like he's sensibly waiting out the clock, keeping options open in the same company.
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True, but only in the first case. In the 2nd it sounds like he's sensibly waiting out the clock, keeping options open in the same company.
Yes, I can confirm that the two situations are vastly different. I am patiently and professionally wrapping up my responsibilities and have commenced looking internally and externally while I have what amounts to paid time off.
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Yes, I can confirm that the two situations are vastly different. I am patiently and professionally wrapping up my responsibilities and have commenced looking internally and externally while I have what amounts to paid time off.
Will you be working on your short game again ?
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