Homosexuality was not criminalised under Saddam Hussein – indeed Iraq in the 1960s and 1970s was known for its relatively liberated gay scene. Violence against gays started in the aftermath of the invasion in 2003. Since 2004, according to Ali Hali, chairman of the Iraqi LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender) group, a London-based human-rights group, a total of 680 have died in Iraq, with at least 70 of those in the past five months.
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Sitting on the floor, wearing traditional Islamic clothes and holding an old notebook, Abu Hamizi, 22, spends at least six hours a day searching internet chatrooms linked to gay websites. He is not looking for new friends, but for victims.
"It is the easiest way to find those people who are destroying Islam and who want to dirty the reputation we took centuries to build up," he said. When he finds them, Hamizi arranges for them to be attacked and sometimes killed.
I try not to cast snap judgments, but how these brutal bullies can call themselves human beings is beyond me.
He arranges for gay people to be killed because he feels they are destroying the reputation of Islam? What planet is he living on? Or does he think that flying planes into buildings was a good PR move?!
He arranges for gay people to be killed because he feels they are destroying the reputation of Islam? What planet is he living on? Or does he think that flying planes into buildings was a good PR move?!
This brings up an interesting phenomenon which I have been thinking a lot about lately.
I cannot think of any other religion (mainstream or otherwise) where some members feel not only justified but downright entitled to tell other members how to observe that religion and to go so far as to take the lives of those other members if they do not agree with it.
Whereas Christianity, Buddhism, Sikhism, Judiasm and others definitely have conservative strains, I am not aware of any which act with such downright entitlement when it comes to taking the lives of fellow practitioners to preserve the "purity" of the religion.
Needless to say, it is a cancer on the face of Islam, and wrongfully besmirches the reputations of the remaining 99.99% of Muslims who reject such barbaric lunacy.
if you expand your view to include not just the present, but the past, Christianity set the example for what is currently going on with islam. don't forget witch trials, inquisition, denounciation of heretics and all inter-christian hostilities (not just catholics, but other denominations too). All religions go through their phases. In Christianity it happened earlier (probably because it was an older religion). And even today, there are plenty of Christians who will be only too happy to tell you how to live your life and why you're not a good Christian.
Suffice it to say that I look forward to the day when we move away from fossil fuel consumption and, as a result, fundamentalist Islamic countries such as Iraq will no longer have the luxury of indulging those citizens among them who are given to sadism and will instead need to fully subscribe to accords on human rights, including the right not to be discriminated in any way due to sexual orientation. Unfortunately, I do not see that day arriving anytime soon.
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if you expand your view to include not just the present, but the past, Christianity set the example for what is currently going on with islam. don't forget witch trials, inquisition, denounciation of heretics and all inter-christian hostilities (not just catholics, but other denominations too). All religions go through their phases. In Christianity it happened earlier (probably because it was an older religion). And even today, there are plenty of Christians who will be only too happy to tell you how to live your life and why you're not a good Christian.
Indeed. What's more, some of them still preach that gay people deserve death.
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I never understood the fanatical obsession with sexual preference displayed by religious fundamentalists. The gays are going to burn in hell anyway, so why bother with them? They should be happy that gay people exist; it means less competition for them?
It's really sad that a guy who certainly has a head on his shoulders (if he is studying computer science) can't figure out critical thinking and place his religious beliefs under much needed scrutiny. He could start by reading Rumi.
I never understood the fanatical obsession with sexual preference displayed by religious fundamentalists. The gays are going to burn in hell anyway, so why bother with them? They should be happy that gay people exist; it means less competition for them?
It's really sad that a guy who certainly has a head on his shoulders (if he is studying computer science) can't figure out critical thinking and place his religious beliefs under much needed scrutiny. He could start by reading Rumi.
Are you kidding? Give up the thrill of cruising gaydar? At 22, a guys' hormones are surging.
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Are you kidding? Give up the thrill of cruising gaydar? At 22, a guys' hormones are surging.
You know what is really scary? There is probably a sura in the Koran that advocates this in the eyes of many, much as some claim similar things about the Bible. If it is legitimized in the Holy text, who are we to say it is wrong? This poor, misunderstood lad is filling other men's anuses with glue because it is his religious duty.
What planet is he living on? Or does he think that flying planes into buildings was a good PR move?!
