I would have thought it was obvious - the plan was to kill the Jews, everyone else who died was merely a diversion to make it seem as if the plan wasn't to kill the Jews
They pull "sh#t like this" as you call it, while GWB and Cheney (which peaceful religion do they belong to, exactly?) invade and occupy other countries without a credible excuse and cause thousands to be killed. I don't see any righteous indignation from you in the latter case.
You might have a bit of credibility if you held everyone to the same standard instead of making sweeping and snide generalizations about the "ROP."
For the record, the number of people killed in all the atrocities that you list is dwarfed by the number of deaths caused by Bush's illegal war.
[Edited to add:] Let's try something different, let's *think* for a change.
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Are we supposed to know what your "viewpt on eradication of Islam" is?
Should Hinduism also be eradicated because of incidents such as this? Or this?
FWIW, I have family in BOM too. And I am traveling to India next week to visit family.
"Eradication" of Islam means what it says. When is the WHOLE world going to finally put their foot down with this crap? Why can't innocents live in peace and harmony?
If you take the last 10 recent terrorist attacks, what percentage would be muslim?
I would take bet for 90% if not 100%. Why put up with this?
What they are doing is not honorable and they should be swiftly put down. India should go into Pakistan and give them such a beating that the terrosists camps will take a long time to recover. India can never get rid of these people, but putting them back to the stone age should give us a few years of peace. If they do not do this, then what is the point of having the worlds 2nd largest army?
I have friends at the LOC -- Commanders of regiments -- ready and itching for a shot at Pakistan. They are just waiting for the word. !!
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Anyone with half a brain would know what domestic terrorism is not If you are not aware of the situation in that part of the world, your should educate yourself on the issue.
Only one who is completely unaware of politics in that part of the world would call it domestic terrorism and rule out "foreign" hands.
I agree that this is domestic terrorism, but it is linked to Pakistan and specifically points at Karachi.
Very simple, it is Pakistan funded and allowed.
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I agree that this is domestic terrorism, but it is linked to Pakistan and specifically points at Karachi.
Very simple, it is Pakistan funded and allowed.
Quick question -- I heard a radio report that at least some of the attackers are British citizens of Pakistani origin. IMHO if they are British or Pakistani or any other citizenship than Indian, it's not domestic terrorism.
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Quick question -- I heard a radio report that at least some of the attackers are British citizens of Pakistani origin. IMHO if they are British or Pakistani or any other citizenship than Indian, it's not domestic terrorism.
They might be living in India/training in Pakistan but born in Britain.
So, while living/ working in India, they developed this hatred oe were taught this hatred and then proceeded to go to Pakistan to learn how to fight with guns and so forth and then they decideed to attack India.
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They might be living in India/training in Pakistan but born in Britain.
So, while living/ working in India, they developed this hatred oe were taught this hatred and then proceeded to go to Pakistan to learn how to fight with guns and so forth and then they decideed to attack India.
And the British authorities have expressed surprise at that report, since no-one has informed them about it.
I think any such statements, including anaggie's certainty about the source of the attacks, needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt and identified clearly as the speculation that they obviously are.
I also find anaggie's statements about eradicating a billion people reprehensible and indefensible. I believe that was last tried with judaism, and failed, but not before millions of people were dead. That anyone who knows anything about the Holocaust could make statements like that defies belief
Hey Jenbel, I didn't mean to pin this on the UK. I was just trying to say that IMHO the likelihood that this is purely "domestic terrorism" seem pretty low to me.
And I agree with you re: eradicating anyone. The world doesn't work that way anymore. I hope. And that sort of thinking does nothing to solve anything.
You aren't - it seems like some parts of the Indian authorities might be though
I'm not going to deny it's possible that British nationals could be involved - I hope they weren't but it is possible. But I simply don't believe definitive statements being made this early into the investigation. The British authorities have made it clear they have no knowledge of this, and have received no information about it from the Indian authorities. Given the confused information which has been coming out of Mumbai over the past 3 days - well, I'm taking it with a pinch of salt until more information is forthcoming.
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And the British authorities have expressed surprise at that report, since no-one has informed them about it.
I think any such statements, including anaggie's certainty about the source of the attacks, needs to be taken with a huge pinch of salt and identified clearly as the speculation that they obviously are.
I also find anaggie's statements about eradicating a billion people reprehensible and indefensible. I believe that was last tried with judaism, and failed, but not before millions of people were dead. That anyone who knows anything about the Holocaust could make statements like that defies belief
The difference between the Holocaust and eradication of Islam and very different.
Did the Jews commit terrorist acts?
Did the Jews kill innocent WOMEN AND CHILDREN?
Did the Jews consistently go after certain group of people?
Answer is NO to all the above, so therefore the Holocaust was unjustified and a barbaric act.
I know a lot of smart and educated Muslims who are so far removed from this, and I hate to lump them in all in one group, but nowadays I am just FED up with this crap.
I have freinds at LOC who have such diffferent stories than what we hear and it just pisses me off. for example:
The commander of a certain regiment at LOC has had kids ( no more than 10-12yrs old) who sho show up at their post asking for food and water but are fully stapped with explosives.
Why would a "sane" religion permit this?
In Judaism, is it ok to send Children pakced with explosives to kill others? It is not nor is it ok in any other religion.
But it Islam, it is an HONOR to kill infidels.
Also, my statements are a bit over the top, but when you have friends DIE because of these cowardly acts, then you view gets to be a bit skewed. Sorry.
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I'm with you. You keep hoping that there will be some glimmer of recognition about what he is saying and how truly and completely reprehensible it is, but no.
Does anaggie realise that the 'smart and educated Muslims' he knows would be eradicated as well if his pogrom took effect in the way he describes? What does he think is the best way to eradicate about 1 billion people - gas, poison, nuclear bombs, shooting? Would he be willing to assist in this, or does he expect other people to do the killing on his behalf? And how does one dispose of 1 billion bodies anyway?
I suppose the worst aspect would be the children - given the population profiles of many of the countries which are predominantly Muslim, I guess about 25 - 30% of the people he is insisting should be eradicated would be children. Do you think he'd allow a lower age limit, so long as those born of Muslim families were brainwashed into another faith, or does he believe it's better to kill them all?
Food for thought. And we wonder how genocides start.
If you are not aware of the situation in that part of the world, your should educate yourself on the issue.
