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Old Dec 4, 08, 3:00 pm   #346
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Here is an interesting story speculating about possible motives:

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THE scale and sophistication of the coordinated terror attack on Mumbai signals the resolve of “mujahideen” groups to up the ante against the Indian state. The Al Qaeda leadership, including Osama bin Laden and Ayman al Zawahiri, have in recent years clubbed India with the United States and Israel. Pakistan has faced the brunt of Al Qaeda-linked attacks in the past couple of years. The Al Qaeda leadership considers the government in Islamabad a quisling of Washington. Going by the opinion of experts that the Mumbai attack had the telltale marks of an Al Qaeda act, terrorism in the subcontinent is set to become even more lethal.

Western intelligence agencies have been expecting a “spectacular” attack of this scale for some time. The terrorist strike in Mumbai has drawn comparisons to the attack on Bali (Indonesia) in 2002. In both cases, European and American citizens were singled out. Attacks on this scale, according to experts on the subject, are only carried out in areas where the terror groups have sufficient local resources. The Mumbai attack has been described as the biggest since the targeting of the twin towers in New York in 2001...

In September, Major General Avi Mizrahi, Officer Commanding, Ground Forces Command, went on an unscheduled trip to Kashmir to review the Indian Army’s counter-insurgency policy in the Valley. Israel, which is India’s second biggest supplier of weaponry, is helping India in its counter-insurgency efforts. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) is preparing a training plan in counter-insurgency for Indian troops. Under the proposed agreement, the IDF will send highly trained commandos to provide instruction in counter-terror and urban warfare.

The special relationship New Delhi has with Washington and Tel Aviv is not viewed favourably in much of the Islamic world. Israel’s occupation of Arab lands and America’s occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan are the major factors responsible for the spurt in terrorism worldwide. The U.S. is simultaneously taking on Sunni radicals in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. The random killing of civilians by American bombs in Afghanistan and Pakistan has only inflamed passions in the region. The situation may get worse as Obama has pledged to increase the U.S. troop presence in Afghanistan and pursue tougher counter-terrorism measures. India has been lending a helping hand in the Bush administration’s “war on terror”. Cuban leader Fidel Castro, in one of his recent articles, said that the U.S. used the “war on terror” to interfere in the affairs of other countries while encouraging terrorism when it suited its national agenda. Obama, going by the views he expressed on the campaign trail, sees a connection between Afghanistan and Kashmir. Influential sections of the American establishment are of the opinion that a solution to the Kashmir dispute will help American security interests in both Afghanistan and Pakistan. They want India to observe restraint and not blame Pakistan for every terrorist incident. The Bush administration has been actively encouraging back-channel communication between India and Pakistan...

Robert A. Pape, a well-known American expert on terrorism and the author of Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism, said after the London train bombings that the “sustained presence of heavy American combat forces in Muslim countries is likely to increase the odds of the next September 11, 2001”. He said that his research had shown that what 95 per cent of all suicide bombings around the world since 1980 had in common was not religion but a clear, strategic objective: “to compel a modern democracy to withdraw military forces from a territory that the terrorists view as their homeland”....
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Old Dec 4, 08, 3:05 pm   #347
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Six gunmen kiled at Delhi airport-- unconfirmed reports

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The British Broadcasting Corp. cited unconfirmed reports from airport officials as saying late Thursday that up to six gunmen had been shot and killed at New Delhi's international airport. But Indian officials told the AP there was a minor incident and no deaths.
Indian airports on high alert after new warning

More anti-semetism continues.
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Old Dec 4, 08, 3:13 pm   #348
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Here is an interesting story speculating about possible motives:



http://www.flonnet.com/stories/20081219252512700.htm
Nothing else matters. For some, there is only one dimension to the latest Mumbai attack.
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Old Dec 4, 08, 3:20 pm   #349
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Nothing else matters. For some, there is only one dimension to the latest Mumbai attack.
I don't think anyone disagrees that the overall attacks are terrorism, Beavis. Targeting Chabad, however, is anti-semitism.
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Old Dec 4, 08, 3:21 pm   #350
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Nothing else matters. For some, there is only one dimension to the latest Mumbai attack.
If the article's claim is true that the IDF is effectively training the Indian military in urban warfare in Kashmir, then we can hypothesize about more possible motives.

At any rate, I think it's obvious that the attack on the Chabad Center was multifaceted. There may have been an element of anti-semitism - maybe there certainly was. But that was probably not the only motive.
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Old Dec 4, 08, 3:28 pm   #351
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If the article's claim is true that the IDF is effectively training the Indian military in urban warfare in Kashmir, then we can hypothesize about more possible motives.

At any rate, I think it's obvious that the attack on the Chabad Center was multifaceted. There may have been an element of anti-semitism - maybe there certainly was. But that was probably not the only motive.
They might be. India and Israel have good relations now openly. There was a time when the Congress Govt in India hid contacts with Israeli Govt for fear of losing Muslim vote. But since the 80's that policy has been gradually reversed to the point that India openly conducts business with Israel.

I concur, the attack was multifaceted. If the motive was solely to kill Jews, India is not the best place for that as there aren't many Jews in India.
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Old Dec 4, 08, 3:33 pm   #352
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They might be.
Then with Kashmir's bitterly disputed borders, and the hostilities which endlessly spring from that dispute, you simply need to connect the dots, and perhaps we have part of a motive to this sad, outrageous attack.
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Old Dec 4, 08, 3:37 pm   #353
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Then with Kashmir's bitterly disputed borders, and the hostilities which endlessly spring from that dispute, you simply need to connect the dots, and perhaps we have part of a motive to this sad, outrageous attack.
That's one possible angle. But if the sole purpose was to kill Jews in India, why did the terrorists went on a killing rampage all over the city? It's quite silly to think it was all about killing only Jews.
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Is there a large Jewish community in India? Hasn't India and Pakistan been fighting over the Kashmir area since the UK split up India?
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Is there a large Jewish community in India? Hasn't India and Pakistan been fighting over the Kashmir area since the UK split up India?
What do the two questions have to do with each other?
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What do the two questions have to do with each other?
Why do the questions need to relate? They were just questions that I had about India.
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Why do the questions need to relate? They were just questions that I had about India.
It just appeared that you were leading on to something bizarre like some of your other suggestions.
There is a small Jewish community in India. Yes, Kashmir has been a contentious issue between India and Pakistan.There have been several waves of Jewish immigration into India over the last 2500 years. The oldest Jewish communities of India go back 2500 years. Most of them live in coastal cities of western India.
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That's one possible angle. But if the sole purpose was to kill Jews in India, why did the terrorists went on a killing rampage all over the city? It's quite silly to think it was all about killing only Jews.
Oh, is THAT what the claim was that set this off here, that some people are claiming the entire attack was motivated by anti-semitism? That is quite simplistic and given that we don't even have all the facts yet, premature.
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Oh, is THAT what the claim was that set this off here, that some people are claiming the entire attack was motivated by anti-semitism?

No, nobody has even hinted at such a thing despite what Yaatri might believe.

What has been said, and I stand behind it, is that the attack on the Chabad Center was motivated by anti-Semitism.
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No, nobody has even hinted at such a thing despite what Yaatri might believe.

What has been said, and I stand behind it, is that the attack on the Chabad Center was motivated by anti-Semitism.
What I have said all along was thatb anti-semetism is only one dimension of the attack. How do you know what I believe? I hope you do not believe what anaggie said about you.
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