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Old Oct 12, 09, 6:49 pm   #46
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So is the AP now suspect like Fox? You asked about whether the refusal of a soldier to deploy would merit coverage (from Fox, I guess) apart from a connection to Obama. I provided the evidence that Fox had in fact covered and Bill O'Reilly had interviewed such a person. I regret that I cannot provide video of the interview. My DVR was off that day I'm not sure what else would satisfy you. Clearly, it was NOT just an Obama thing.
I think you are wrong.

I'm asking you if you personally think this coverage approaches the coverage given to the birther craze. What do you think?
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Old Oct 12, 09, 6:50 pm   #47
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I love this objective quote from Lee Cowan at NBC after he was selected by his editors to cover the Obama campaign;

“When NBC News first assigned me to the Barack Obama campaign, I must confess my knees quaked a bit....I wondered if I was up to the job. I wondered if I could do the campaign justice.”
— NBC reporter Lee Cowan in an article for NBC’s “The Peacock” advertising supplement, March 23-29.
I don't follow. Do you think this is a smoking gun or something?
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Old Oct 12, 09, 7:07 pm   #48
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I don't follow. Do you think this is a smoking gun or something?
a warm straw maybe (warmed from all the clutching)
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Old Oct 12, 09, 7:10 pm   #49
 
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This is the sort of political strategy that appeals to the far Left and nobody else. The best way to counter what you deem unfair criticism is to go on Fox and give your side of the story. The WH should reconsider this strategy if they've got any political smarts.
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This is the sort of political strategy that appeals to the far Left and nobody else. The best way to counter what you deem unfair criticism is to go on Fox and give your side of the story. The WH should reconsider this strategy if they've got any political smarts.
agreed. I think every political strategist I've seen comment on this (outside of those working for the current administration) has said this is a bad move...how does that saying go? "don't roll in the mud with pigs...you both get muddy, but only the pig enjoys it"...or something like that.
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Old Oct 12, 09, 7:26 pm   #51
 
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agreed. I think every political strategist I've seen comment on this (outside of those working for the current administration) has said this is a bad move...how does that saying go? "don't roll in the mud with pigs...you both get muddy, but only the pig enjoys it"...or something like that.
Yes, we're supposed to believe an administration that is too scared to go on Fox is going to get Iran to give up its nukes? Give me a break - the administration should grow a pair and go on Fox and give its side of the story. They certainly aren't getting much traction talking to MSNBC's 12 viewers every night.
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Old Oct 12, 09, 7:31 pm   #52
 
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It's important to remember that Dan Rather and a few members of the CBS News Staff continue (even to this day!) to insist obviously forged documents that claim Bush skipped out of National Guard service are real. And they unveiled these photos right before the 2004 election, in an obvious "October surprise" intended to win John Kerry the election.

Yet the previous administration continued to speak with CBS right until the very end of its second term. Refusing to talk to people who disagree with your administration comes across as petty at best, and Nixonian "enemies list" type paranoid at worst.
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Did I miss the part where the White House is "censoring" anyone? Such terms should not be thrown around lightly.
Censoring is likely the next step.
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Old Oct 12, 09, 7:46 pm   #54
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Censoring is likely the next step.
LOL.. you're funny. Be sure to quote this post when it happens, though.
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Old Oct 12, 09, 8:21 pm   #55
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Censoring is likely the next step.
I was thinking maybe nationalizing the news media. Isn't that what a socialist would do?
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I was thinking maybe nationalizing the news media. Isn't that what a socialist would do?
Well, it's what they're doing in Argentina as we speak.
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Re: OP. Fox has crossed a real line with its promotion of tea-party events. Even if you carve those like Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck out of the "news" part of the operation (they're commentators and are there to express opinions), the fact that it was all orchestrated and, most importantly, coordinated with the "news" side of the operation, crosses the line into advocacy (If further proof were needed, the footage of Fox producers trying to whip up the crowd for a camera shot circulated).

A real news organization like CNN would still let someone like James Carville do advocacy work, but they wouldn't try themselves to organize all their Carville types behind a "movement." Most importantly, even if they all did vocally get behind the same cause at the same time, the news branch would take great pains against appearing to show favoritism in coverage. They'd likely avoid showing too much of their "own" people talking, and if they did they'd be sure to disclose that ____ is a commentator for CNN. And if that person came on an opinion-oriented show, the advocacy role would also be disclosed.

There'd be a real church-and-state separation there between the "commentary" side and the news side that Fox hasn't been willing to have.

Of course, the Fox types like nothing better than to play the victims or the persecuted, so you'll get that spun version in spades.
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Old Oct 12, 09, 8:42 pm   #58
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Well, it's what they're doing in Argentina as we speak.
I read the Argentine Senate just approved a change in the law, but it's not quite that bad, is it?
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Old Oct 12, 09, 10:19 pm   #59
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There are few legitimate news organizations left.
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Old Oct 12, 09, 10:36 pm   #60
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Well, it's what they're doing in Argentina as we speak.
I read the Argentine Senate just approved a change in the law, but it's not quite that bad, is it?
Wait. We live in Argentina now? Damn it, nobody tells me anything anymore!
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