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I consider it newsworthy when members of the military refuse an order to deploy.
Do you really think that was the aim here? If so, maybe you can point me to footage of the other stories regarding refusing deployment that didn't have anything to do with birth certificates?
You really don't think the deployment issue was an in for talking about birth certificates?
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Couldn't disagree more. I think the White House should take a stand against organizations that pretend to be objective but really are just mouthpieces of the opposition. They are doing the right thing here.
If Fox doesn't like it, they should make efforts to be more objective.
LOL, keyword is "objective."
The Left is not interested in objectivity. They are all for bias if it is in their favor. No outcry from the WH when MSNBC's Chris Matthews said his "job" was to make this President successful.
At least be honest by admitting your goal, and it has nothing to do with objectivity.
Do you really think that was the aim here? If so, maybe you can point me to footage of the other stories regarding refusing deployment that didn't have anything to do with birth certificates?
Sure, googling "refusal to deploy" turns up th case of Ehren Watada, who declined to deploy to Iraq when Bush was president. His refusal, and the reasons for it were covered by Fox: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198566,00.html. He apparently appeared on O'Reilly's show, but I can't find a video clip of the interview.
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The controversy "continues to dog his administration" and the White House "brushed aside" the rumor. That's news to you?
As far as I am concerned, Fox News helped to create this story by talking about it so much. Just like they created the enthusiastic crowds that the teabagging parties.
Here in lies the problem...magiciansampras doesn't understand the word create...
I'm wondering if he feels that Keith Olbermann "created" the "mission accomplished" story...he talks about it EVERY night...
As I said earlier this year, this is an absolutely insane approach to media relations by the White House.
Maybe they are finally realizing that the "reset" and the "Bush did it" rhetoric isn't really working out too well, so they came up with a "blame those meanies at Fox" strategy.
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It's almost as if the WH is being run by fans of the old TV show "West Wing,"...
You mean "West Wing" fans aren't running the WH?
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What the WH should do is prove fox wrong by being constructive. Name calling just makes you look childish and petty.
Indeed. Glenn Beck calling Obama a racist on Fox News is right along those lines.
Let's compare: MSNBC has about four hours of "biased" commentary - Ed Schulz (who should go back to radio), Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow. Most of the morning and afternoon schedule is more CNN-like regular, traditional news reporting; Joe Scarborough in the morning seems center-right to me.
Fox's four hours of "biased" commentary includes the entire morning show, Neil Cavuto, Glenn Beck, Bret Baier (slightly less biased than Brit Hume, whom he replaced), O'Reilly, and Hannity.
Oh, wait. That's eight hours of "'biased" commentary. Twice as much as MSNBC.
Having said all that, there is still one true journalist at Fox, and that's Shepard Smith. It would make sense for Obama to go on Fox - but only on Shep's show. There is absolutely no reason to appear on any of the others; it would only boost the jackals and do nothing positive for Obama.
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Sure, googling "refusal to deploy" turns up th case of Ehren Watada, who declined to deploy to Iraq when Bush was president. His refusal, and the reasons for it were covered by Fox: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198566,00.html. He apparently appeared on O'Reilly's show, but I can't find a video clip of the interview.
I would be interested in that clip. What I have here is just an AP story. Certainly not the level of coverage given to the birther craziness, right?
I would be interested in that clip. What I have here is just an AP story. Certainly not the level of coverage given to the birther craziness, right?
So is the AP now suspect like Fox? You asked about whether the refusal of a soldier to deploy would merit coverage (from Fox, I guess) apart from a connection to Obama. I provided the evidence that Fox had in fact covered and Bill O'Reilly had interviewed such a person. I regret that I cannot provide video of the interview. My DVR was off that day I'm not sure what else would satisfy you. Clearly, it was NOT just an Obama thing.
I haven't watched much TV news, so I really can't compare the level of coverage of Ehren Watada and the Iraq war with the coverage of the current guy. You seem to be the the expert TV critic. I'm not interested in competing for that title.
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Im glad that the WH is calling them out. It is about time.
The problem is they are only "calling out" the organization being mean to them. If they are making this about being a "legitimate" news organization and not some sort of temper tantrum, then they also need to call out NBC and others who worship at their feet. Otherwise it appears the White House is whining about people not liking them and agreeing with everything they say, instead of being concerned about truth and facts.
I love this objective quote from Lee Cowan at NBC after he was selected by his editors to cover the Obama campaign;
“When NBC News first assigned me to the Barack Obama campaign, I must confess my knees quaked a bit....I wondered if I was up to the job. I wondered if I could do the campaign justice.”
— NBC reporter Lee Cowan in an article for NBC’s “The Peacock” advertising supplement, March 23-29.
