They're not making baseless attacks here. Fox has a record of simply making stuff up. And the WH, rightly, has had enough. Fox is like a blogger or FTer who takes it upon themselves to create out of whole cloth attacks on Obama. I see no reason why the WH should dignify that behavior. I say lock them out of the press conference for awhile. Take away their credentials.
The WH needs to realize they are public servants, and don't get to choose which of the public they serve. They serve everyone, even those against them, those who are mean to them, and those they don't like. The WH needs to grow up and remember we don't work for them, they work for us. Censoring news organizations of any kind is far worse than anything CNN, Fox, CBS, the NYT, or anyone else might do to them.
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The WH needs to realize they are public servants, and don't get to choose which of the public they serve.
Nonsense. Try going into the press room today and see if they let you in. The WH most definitely can decide who, and who does not, represent a news organization.
Well, Fox would have to do something pretty outlandish to top the Rather (badly) faked documents on Bush's NG service or the rantings of Oberman and Maddow on MSNBC. Can you point out a couple examples of what you have in mind?
How'd that whole "enemies list" thing work out for Nixon? Did it enhance his standing with the public?
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Well, Fox would have to do something pretty outlandish to top the Rather (badly) faked documents on Bush's NG service or the rantings of Oberman and Maddow on MSNBC. Can you point out a couple examples of what you have in mind?
You don't think Fox News coverage of the whole birther conspiracy isn't antagonistic toward Obama?
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Once again Fox news is BIASED any reasonable person knows this. However MSNBC is also BIASED so would you be ok with a Republican president saying the same thing about them?
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I think its certainly newsworthy that a soldier ordered to deploy is challenging the authority of the president to order him to go. Fox didn't take a position on the merits of the case (that I could tell) and did note that courts have already dismissed similar claims. Is it your contention that the soldier's refusal to deploy is NOT newsworthy?
Was it newsworthy when various reservists refused to deploy to Iraq during the Bush administration for a variety of reasons?
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Once again Fox news is BIASED any reasonable person knows this. However MSNBC is also BIASED so would you be ok with a Republican president saying the same thing about them?
I refuse to accept the move you are making here. I don't think Fox News and MSNBC are in the same league.
Like you said yourself, Fox News "reports" Obama as evil. That's just inexcusable.
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I think its certainly newsworthy that a soldier ordered to deploy is challenging the authority of the president to order him to go. Fox didn't take a position on the merits of the case and did note that courts have already dismissed similar claims. Is it your contention that the soldier's refusal to deploy is NOT newsworthy?
The controversy "continues to dog his administration" and the White House "brushed aside" the rumor. That's news to you?
As far as I am concerned, Fox News helped to create this story by talking about it so much. Just like they created the enthusiastic crowds that the teabagging parties.
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The controversy "continues to dog his administration" and the White House "brushed aside" the rumor. That's news to you?
As far as I am concerned, Fox News helped to create this story by talking about it so much. Just like they created the enthusiastic crowds that the teabagging parties.
Agreed. Having a network organize, promote and cheerlead at Tea Parties is far away from what a "news" organization should do. Opinion shows are fine, that is something else altogether.
That said, Shepard Smith does a relatively fair newscast for Fox -- certainly better than Lou Dobbs in the same time slot.
The controversy "continues to dog his administration" and the White House "brushed aside" the rumor. That's news to you?
I consider it newsworthy when members of the military refuse an order to deploy. Their reasons for refusing are also newsworthy. It was worth reporting on the refusals to deploy during the Bush administration and its worth reporting on the refusals during the Obama administration.
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