If someone flies 10 times a year and can make PL they will likely only fly 10 times a year. They maybe PL on paper but not likely to affect a whole lot the bottom line for FF that earn PL with 25 flights a year.
You're kidding - right? There are people who fly JUST to make status? Isn't it more comfy on the ground without status?
Sure there are folks who make those 1 or 2 more trips to reach a certain level. But I don't know anyone who flies just to make status - on any airline - unless they are a pilot.
When was the last time you were in a restaurant and said, I wish I was eating in NW First instead. In bed, saying I wish I was in that First Class seat. The only time First is better is when you are in in economy. Being on the ground is always better than being in the air - regardless of where you sit.
Because it reduces the value of being Platinum if everyone and their uncle can get there.
Sorry - I don't buy that argument. I think the overall number of Plats will remain flat due to the economy. Including after the promotion.
I'll give you another analogy - BMW is offering huge incentives on their cars - unheard of incentives. This means we'll see more BMWs on the roads, reducing exclusivity - right? Wrong - sales are down 30%.
Sorry - I don't buy that argument. I think the overall number of Plats will remain flat due to the economy. Including after the promotion.
Sorry but I don't buy your argument. You offer 2xEQM, you will have more platinums than the same environment without the 2xEQM. The economy has nothing to do with it.
If I make PE in this economy or any other (without 2xEQM), then the value is reduced the minute that someone makes it with 2xEQM. That's one more person to compete with for upgrades.
I'll give you another analogy - BMW is offering huge incentives on their cars - unheard of incentives. This means we'll see more BMWs on the roads, reducing exclusivity - right? Wrong - sales are down 30%.
But you'll still see more BMW's on the road than without the promotion, which right away reduces the exclusivity. What happened last year does not affect the exclusivity at the moment.
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But you'll still see more BMW's on the road than without the promotion, which right away reduces the exclusivity. What happened last year does not affect the exclusivity at the moment.
This type of promotion will certainly increase the number of Platinums, Golds and Silvers, but it won't necessarily make that much of a difference if they aren't flying that much anyway at the same time as my flights.
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But you'll still see more BMW's on the road than without the promotion, which right away reduces the exclusivity. What happened last year does not affect the exclusivity at the moment.
If BMW didn't run the incentives, exclusivity would increase. You neglect the fact that old BMWs are being taken off the roads - generally speaking.
Exclusivity is maintained at a lower price point is what I'm driving (sic) at.
Sorry but I don't buy your argument. You offer 2xEQM, you will have more platinums than the same environment without the 2xEQM. The economy has nothing to do with it.
Hasn't the environment changed? I read a lot about companies cutting travel - perhaps it's not really true?
At the end of the day, honestly, what you or I say will have little sway. NWA is trying to move forward with what they think is the best profit maximization strategy, all things considered, and will do whatever they deem best for the airline.
This thread has blown up into off-tangental dialogue. Dammit, this is serious stuff. Please scroll down to OP, and let's get back to the substance of his post. Shall we?
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Last edited by Kohoutek; Mar 20, 09 at 10:48 pm.
Reason: Had the wrong name for OP
I sent a message to TTU and the response was to "Monitor the Website to see if the promotion will be offered by the Marketing Department. The Worldperks department is not able to answer this question."
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This thread has blown up into off-tangental dialogue. Dammit, this is serious stuff. Please scroll down to Schark's original post, and let's get back to the substance of his post. Shall we?
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I'll bite - I think they will match the UA/AA offer.
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Why are Platinum members PO'd?
I would have thought that this allows the Plats to requalify earlier/easier. Isn't that better? And it allows some folks who have reduced travel to requalify since travel is down overall. Additionally - what about all those elites who lost their jobs - they'll probably just be qualifying for social security, not platinum status.
I'd guess that overall numbers of elites may remain the same or slightly down come end of 2009 due to the economy. But I'm just guessing.
What I meant by PO'd was due to some changes that DL made to Platinum members that has made them look elsewhere; hence they are loosing business.
My main one is the change fee for awards. I already switched back to AA. If they are looking for a way to get more business it would make sense to first find a way to not have Platinum members look elsewhere.
There are numerous threads here and even on DL's board of people upset with some of these changes; especially the redeposit and change fees for awards. TO show how it is so important CO is giving a Platinum status match for NW / DL platinum members and waving all fees associated with awards.
DL's nonsense is other carriers gain. Therefore the DEQM is not the place to start, in my opinion, for business. I believe they should find a way to keep what they have / had.
In the past it was enough to register before the trip.
