I'd be glad about a DEQM promo, if they didn't take out the SWUs from EEP, all the other choices seems pretty lame, i've already got 52,000 eqms, and i'm putting anything above 75,000 over on UA, unless DL/NW comes up with some better use for eqms (a fourth tier would be nice), i won't be flying with them much more this year, not even if they introduce a QEQM promo.
Do we really want a double EQM promo over here considering that a number of us have complained about the oversaturation of NW/DL Elites and the fact that this could reduce some of our chances of upgrades? I kind of equate the double EQM to the DL Amex status issues that many of us have voiced our opinions about. More Elites lessens one's chance at an upgrade.
Yes. If it means more business for NW/DL. In this economy, more people spending and travelling is good.
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Do we really want a double EQM promo over here considering that a number of us have complained about the oversaturation of NW/DL Elites and the fact that this could reduce some of our chances of upgrades? I kind of equate the double EQM to the DL Amex status issues that many of us have voiced our opinions about. More Elites lessens one's chance at an upgrade.
You are completly right. But there are some of us on this board, who only fly International and are less concerned about the US domestic upgrade chances. UA's double EQM promotion, especially when offered to all MP members, not just US based, is a wonderful thing for the former WP members who defected. Unfortunately, many NW offers in the past were only valid for US based members.
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I just received the UA 2xEQM offer in my e-mail today. Even with that type of a bonus, it provides me no incentive to fly UA because they just don't provide the prospect of unlimited upgrades, as I have when I fly NW/DL domestic. With the program, I could probably fly enough by June to earn premier status, but it would provide me with no additional benefits than I already have on NW/DL. Why would I fly domestic economy on UA when I can fly first class on NW/DL? Why would I fly internationally on UA when I would have no additional benefits than what I already have on NW/DL with a network that has exploded in new routings with the merger.
Since NW/DL's elite benefits are so much richer, I hope they won't match the UA promo. I earn my status the hard way and I don't want to see the elite ranks swelling with infrequent flyers competing with me for upgrades.
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I do not see them doing anything until they have some data on elite upg%. They have so many elites right now, how many more would they want.
As many as possible! It costs them absolutely nothing to give away EQM's. What difference does it make to them if there are 40 or 80 elites on the Upgrade Standby List??? I look for DL/NW to match this promo, if they have not done so already. They can not afford to be the only ones left out in the cold on this one.
It should now be obvious that the 3 majors are operating in "panic mode". As reported in the media, bookings are down 9 or 10% compared to last year. But that is not the real issue. As also reported, REVENUE is down almost 30% compared to last year, as Premium Class travel has shrunk far faster than Coach Class travel.
My guess is that this promo will do very little to actually stimulate any extra travel. The current economy just will not allow it. And since there are no signs of improvement in the next few months, I would expect even richer offers to possibly be forthcoming. Hang on to your hats, as this could get really ugly, or really exciting, in the foreseeable future!!!!!
My guess is that this promo will do very little to actually stimulate any extra travel. The current economy just will not allow it. And since there are no signs of improvement in the next few months, I would expect even richer offers to possibly be forthcoming. Hang on to your hats, as this could get really ugly, or really exciting, in the foreseeable future!!!!!
The promo is not about extra travel, it is about attracting flyers to fly their metal. You are right about more promos. Just hang on for a little while.
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Yes. If it means more business for NW/DL. In this economy, more people spending and travelling is good.
If they want more business they would not have found a way to PO some many Platinum members. That business lost will never come back and it would have been easy for them to have stopped that lost business.
I always seem to remember it is easier to keep current business than add new business. Sure if they add DEQM several people will find $1000 to SIN and get 40,000 or more EQM. Does this really increase that much revenue compared to Platinum members leaving that give them much revenue every month (or way more) for everyday business travel?
In these bad time they should do everything possible to keep customers not find a way to have them try someone else.
Double MQM or EQM won't bring back more customers, NW/DL needs to do a double/triple miles promo for all flights.
The point of the Double EQM is meant to stop folks going to UA/AA. OK - you may have a point that it doesn't bring back customers, but it fills seats of those who would have gone over.
If they want more business they would not have found a way to PO some many Platinum members. That business lost will never come back and it would have been easy for them to have stopped that lost business.
Why are Platinum members PO'd?
I would have thought that this allows the Plats to requalify earlier/easier. Isn't that better? And it allows some folks who have reduced travel to requalify since travel is down overall. Additionally - what about all those elites who lost their jobs - they'll probably just be qualifying for social security, not platinum status.
I'd guess that overall numbers of elites may remain the same or slightly down come end of 2009 due to the economy. But I'm just guessing.
All I have to say is that if DL goes double EQM and NW doesn't again (like last year) you're going to have a LOT of po'd people. Not saying it will or should happen, but hey...
I totally agree....now that I consistently fly enough to be platinum, I see how tough it is to actually make it there. It would be nice to keep it in its most-simple form. Alas, I do believe that DL/NW will match now that CO is in.
Because it reduces the value of being Platinum if everyone and their uncle can get there.
If someone flies 10 times a year and can make PL they will likely only fly 10 times a year. They maybe PL on paper but not likely to affect a whole lot the bottom line for FF that earn PL with 25 flights a year.
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