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Norway: Temporary border control for internal Schengen borders

Old Nov 30, 2012, 7:18 am
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Norway: Temporary border control for internal Schengen borders

Temporary reintroduction of border control at internal Schengen borders

The Nobel Peace Prize for 2012 has been awarded to the European Union, and a ceremony will be held in Oslo on 10th of December 2012.

As a result of increased security requirements and to assure public order, including to prevent potentially violent persons from travelling to Norway and disrupt the ceremony, Norwegian authorities have decided to reintroduce border control at its internal Schengen borders between 3rd - 12th of December 2012.

All travelers must be in possession of a valid travel document, and must be prepared to be subject to border checks when crossing a Norwegian border.
Source: https://www.politi.no/Nyhet_11936.xml

In other words, bring your passport if you go to Norway the next two weeks.
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Old Dec 2, 2012, 8:32 pm
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Originally Posted by papabear
Source: https://www.politi.no/Nyhet_11936.xml

In other words, bring your passport if you go to Norway the next two weeks.
Thanks for posting about this.

Does this really also apply to minors who are citizens of Denmark/Finland/Iceland/Sweden traveling to Norway from (or perhaps via) Denmark, Finland, Iceland or Sweden? According to normal practice, most such minors aren't required to have any government-issued photo ID whatsoever for most travel amongst these Nordic countries. Does a passport requirement also now apply to adult citizens of Denmark/Finland/Iceland/Sweden in these circumstances?

Is this situation one of the lamest excuses for the (re-)implementation of temporary border controls intra-Schengen? Anyway, I find these Norwegian temporary border controls to be a sort of nuisance or a joke. [One of the more notorious times Norway did this kind of thing in recent years, people who know the area well were able to quite easily cross in and out of Norway without either the Norwegians or Swedish authorities knowing who all were crossing the borders by surface transport means if they cared to do so; meanwhile the authorities, domestic and foreign, mis-focused their attention.] This erection of temporary border controls being announced publicly by the police in advance of implementation makes this situation all the more amusing. Do they want hooligans to spend more time and money in Norway?
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Old Dec 3, 2012, 1:18 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Thanks for posting about this.

Does this really also apply to minors who are citizens of Denmark/Finland/Iceland/Sweden traveling to Norway from (or perhaps via) Denmark, Finland, Iceland or Sweden? According to normal practice, most such minors aren't required to have any government-issued photo ID whatsoever for most travel amongst these Nordic countries. Does a passport requirement also now apply to adult citizens of Denmark/Finland/Iceland/Sweden in these circumstances?
This announcement does not change the requirements of travel documents at all. You have to have a valid travel document always when entering Norway or another Schengen country. In Norway's case any ID is sufficient for Nordic citizens. The difference is that in normal circumstances in intra-Schengen borders the documents can be checked only if there is a specific reason to check just the person in question. Per Schengen rules, member countries can for a good reason start checking documents without any obvious reason by making an announcement like this. Then it is possible to either have random checks at the border or even check everybody. This is not unusual at all during the major events in Schengen member-states though I believe the random checks are the most popular way to go. There is bigger debate about some countries' desire to make such situation more or less permanent on basis of illegal immigration.

Many people seem to forget that the Schengen treaty did not eliminate the document requirements. It just eliminated the border checks allowing small exceptions like this.
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Originally Posted by Kallio
This announcement does not change the requirements of travel documents at all. You have to have a valid travel document always when entering Norway or another Schengen country. In Norway's case any ID is sufficient for Nordic citizens. The difference is that in normal circumstances in intra-Schengen borders the documents can be checked only if there is a specific reason to check just the person in question. Per Schengen rules, member countries can for a good reason start checking documents without any obvious reason by making an announcement like this. Then it is possible to either have random checks at the border or even check everybody. This is not unusual at all during the major events in Schengen member-states though I believe the random checks are the most popular way to go. There is bigger debate about some countries' desire to make such situation more or less permanent on basis of illegal immigration.

Many people seem to forget that the Schengen treaty did not eliminate the document requirements. It just eliminated the border checks allowing small exceptions like this.
So all minors who are flying from ARN/CPH/HEL to OSL this week and part of next week will or will not be required to have ID? NPU-tied practice is of more relevance for me at this moment than Schengen.

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Old Dec 3, 2012, 5:10 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
So all minors who are flying from ARN/CPH/HEL to OSL this week and part of next week will or will not be required to have ID? NPU-tied practice is of more relevance for me at this moment than Schengen.
NPU rules stay unchanged. There is no formal requirement of proof of identity, but in practice it is probably useful to have something even in normal times, and airlines may have their own requirements.
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