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Old Jul 5, 09, 12:48 pm   #16
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Yet another step in the creation of ObamaAir! Government needs to stayout of private business! The airlines should be responsible for such rules.
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Old Jul 5, 09, 1:14 pm   #17
 
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in other words???........welcome back to the 1970's where passengers used STAIRS to board and deplane? outside in the rain? snow? bad weather?
People with small children, the elderly and the disabled would HATE that.
Now, now... you've just misquoted me. That's a no,no. Read the disclaimer I wrote about the idea being laughable and inconceivable. I meant that regarding US airline service. However, as I said, SU used to have this service on their IL-86s.

BTW, there are numerous airports around the world that still use stairs with a/c. I'm not suggesting some sort of mandate, I'm just saying that's the reality of airport operations depending which airport you are using. Frankly speaking, when you think about it, one would be using a form of IL-86 service in the US when your gate agent gets your rollaboard carry-on and places the rollaboard in the luggage hold in a regional jet or regional turboprop. Then upon arrival, you get your rollaboard after you deplane the a/c at the bottom of the airstairs that you just got off of at the nearest US airport near you.
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Old Jul 5, 09, 3:49 pm   #18
 
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Yet another step in the creation of ObamaAir! Government needs to stayout of private business! The airlines should be responsible for such rules.
Many rules are regulated by the government in this industry. One example, the rest period for your crew. Leaving the bag issue to the airlines would result in it being a "competitive issue" instead of one of safety! why do you think the templates disappeared in the first place? Continental Airlines sued to have them removed, saying they didnt want "their" passengers subjected to size rules.
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Old Jul 5, 09, 3:53 pm   #19
 
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Now, now... you've just misquoted me. That's a no,no. Read the disclaimer I wrote about the idea being laughable and inconceivable. I meant that regarding US airline service. However, as I said, SU used to have this service on their IL-86s.

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LOL, I understand the disclaimer, but, I read "walk UP airstairs" and I cringed. Sheesh, people hate walking to the back of the plane, let alone, up stairs to board.
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Old Jul 5, 09, 5:06 pm   #20
 
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I do believe that the plethora of carry-on bags is do to two main reasons: 1) the increase in baggage fees charged by the airlines, and 2) the fear (justified or not) that the airlines will "lose my luggage" if checked. If airlines deal with these two issues then the number and size of carry-on bags would decrease. On international flights, I would like to see an incentive whereby anyone who does not bring on any carry-ons would then receive a coupon off a future flight or a free alcoholic beverage during the flight. This would make traveling in coach class on long flights so much more bearable.
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Old Jul 5, 09, 5:21 pm   #21
 
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I think the plethora started by no.2-fear the the airline will lose the luggage, followed by a third point-US business travelers will travel light and don't have time to check-in or collect checked luggage at baggage claim. These two points drove more customers to use carry-ons many years ago. The rollaboard case reinforced the phenomena. The checked baggage fees on domestic US flights is something that happened recently that really exacerbated what was already popular with (not all) customers.
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Old Jul 5, 09, 8:02 pm   #22
 
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I started carrying on my bag if possible because of lost luggage and because it would take forever to retrieve my bag after the plane landed. However, it totally amazes me what people still try to carry on. Last summer, I saw a woman and three kids trying to go through security with a 30" roller bag. She was arguing with TSA who had told her the bag had to be checked as it would obviously not fit in the overhead bins. She was late for her flight any way and kept telling TSA that if she went to check in her bags, she would miss her flight.

As I left security, TSA had told her to either check the bag or leave it there. Don't know what she did.
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Old Jul 5, 09, 10:57 pm   #23
 
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That's exactly the thing that amazes me as well. Another thing I noticed about customers and carry-ons, especially for the occasional flyers is perception. Just because these customers are afraid about lost luggage, they in the meantime take for granted that they have a "template" size carry-on ready to go. The fact of the matter is, many occasional customers don't check size requirements or don't care. Some of them may be lucky to have the carry-on that fits in the overhead bin but then the bag could be way overweight. All of this adds up to delays in boarding when a customer who thinks they will be fine taking a carry-on with them, finds out that they are blocking other boarding passengers by several minutes on a narrow-body aircraft because that customer is trying to squeeze in a carry-on that does not fit the overhead bin, or needs assistance because the bag is overweight.
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