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Old Jun 30, 09, 12:38 am   #1
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Boeing 787 will be pushed back delivery in year of 2011

http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/archives/172429.asp

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31610941

Bad news for 787 will be delayed due to fasteners problems the aircraft. So the first-flight won't be postponed until further notice from Boeing.
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Old Jul 1, 09, 4:49 am   #2
 
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WTO is also due to give a ruling soon on Boeing's complaints over subsidies.
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Old Jul 1, 09, 5:09 am   #3
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Are Boeing hoping that might detract from the bad news coming out the 'dreamliner' programme?
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AFAIK, Boeing is using composite parts for the 1st time and they are making whole sections as one single part. Airbus is using the same technique for quite some years now is not daring to make the parts as big as Boeing does.

If I now read in seattlepi.com

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Boeing had to push back first flight because of unforeseen stresses on the aircraft where the wing joins to the body.

What is particularly worrisome, Wood says, is that Boeing's computer models did not predict the stress.
then this is really worrying. This sounds very much like a major design flaw which might easily trigger major re-designs of the whole airplane. Additionally, this has the potential to undermine the confidence in the engineering of the airplane as well.

Thats is real bad news for Boeing and the whole aircraft industry.
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Old Jul 1, 09, 12:31 pm   #5
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Thats is real bad news for Boeing and the whole aircraft industry.
Yes it is. The delays are becoming unacceptable.
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Old Aug 27, 09, 11:03 am   #6
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Boeing announced a new schedule according to http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unt...645360,00.html

end of 2009: first test flight
4th quarter 2010: first aircraft delivery
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Old Aug 27, 09, 11:26 am   #7
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Yes it is. The delays are becoming unacceptable.
Yes... but, lets remember that the A380 also suffered many many delays, or...?
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Old Aug 27, 09, 2:23 pm   #8
 
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Yes... but, lets remember that the A380 also suffered many many delays, or...?
The A380 has not experienced so many "announced" delays. Airbus delayed the plane for quite some time as soon as it became aware that there were major problems. Boeing is delaying the 787 every few month by a few month.

A few years ago, there was the term "vapor-ware" in the IT industry - referring to software being announced but never appeared in real life. If Boeing goes on like this, we easily might see "vapor-planes".

BTW: Does anyone know from which date on is the delay larger than the originally planned project time? I assume that there is still some time left, but one never knows.
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BTW: Does anyone know from which date on is the delay larger than the originally planned project time? I assume that there is still some time left, but one never knows.
First plane in service was originally planned for May 2008 so the plane will be 2,5 to 3 years late.
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Yes it is. The delays are becoming unacceptable.
if you will send me out to seattle, i shall be glad to straighten them up.
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Old Aug 28, 09, 2:28 am   #11
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if you will send me out to seattle, i shall be glad to straighten them up.
Great news for 787 Dreamliners are flying around end of late-2009. Boeing will expecting deliveries the 787 to airlines in 4Q 2010 timelines. Right now, they are fixing the problems with the wings. So hopefully 787 will be ready into the skies for first time. I will find out any more specific info from Boeing. Boeing will have to be reinforced the wings of 787. It should have no problems from 787 for this time. Right now, it is in progress to be completion done the ground tests.
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Old Aug 28, 09, 6:32 am   #12
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So which will hit the air first... 787 or 748???

Sucks to see the delays... but it is a new development and better to work out as many bugs as possible...
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So which will hit the air first... 787 or 748???
Who knows? Only time will tell ...

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Sucks to see the delays... but it is a new development and better to work out as many bugs as possible...
Considering the "bugs" being reported, then I would say that Boeing better remove ALL of them.
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Old Aug 28, 09, 8:26 am   #14
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...It should have no problems from 787 for this time. Right now, it is in progress to be completion done the ground tests.
Unfortunately, we've heard this before. Several times.

I'm sure it will fly eventually, and will at some point be a fine aircraft that the airlines and the traveling public are happy with, but I won't believe schedule promises until I'm walking down the jetway.
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So which will hit the air first... 787 or 748???
My guess is the 748. Just seems like there's less likely to be problems cropping up with that when they get to testing, since it doesn't have all the . I know when I took the tour last month the first 748 body was looking like it was getting pretty close to being ready to roll off the line.
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