Not true! Know how many GM and PMs are in ATL?!?!? Having CLEAR above and beyond that made life SO much easier. In BOS there are no elite lines; so having CLEAR was the *only* way to bypass grannie and the kids on their way to Disney. Same for IND.
Those were my three biggest CLEAR markets that I traveled every month, and I'm sure those aren't isolated examples.
I fly out of IND and *almost* signed up for clear last year. The lines at IND were terrible. However, I wanted to wait and see what the new IND terminal had to offer before getting scanned, probed and charged. Glad I waited. It's now actually faster to bypass the Clear lane and go straight to the TSA. (well, prior to yesterday)
Applicant and Member data is currently secured in accordance with the Transportation Security Administration’s Security, Privacy and Compliance Standards. Verified Identity Pass, Inc. will continue to secure such information and will take appropriate steps to delete the information.
Will I receive a refund for membership in Clear?
At the present time, because of its financial condition, Verified Identity Pass, Inc. cannot issue refunds.
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Applicant and Member data is currently secured in accordance with the Transportation Security Administration’s Security, Privacy and Compliance Standards. Verified Identity Pass, Inc. will continue to secure such information and will take appropriate steps to delete the information.
You might as well put your information up on a billboard as trust it to this disgusting, un-American agency.
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Just got off the phone with VISA who submitted my request for 10 months back. She said if the bank/merchant never responds the refund will remain on the account. Who knows what the bank of Clear will say? Guess we will find out.
I never understood the business model. Having a few passengers pre-checked doesn't improve security - not if 99% of passengers aren't checked. So what's the point of doing the background checks? They should skip the added security, and associated costs, altogether. The TSA together with the airlines should simply charge a higher fee to go to the front of the security lines. I understand the business model if it's just selling perks!
I never understood the business model. Having a few passengers pre-checked doesn't improve security - not if 99% of passengers aren't checked. So what's the point of doing the background checks? They should skip the added security, and associated costs, altogether. The TSA together with the airlines should simply charge a higher fee to go to the front of the security lines. I understand the business model if it's just selling perks!
The promise (never lived up to) was that in exchange for up front screening there would be less screening at the airport. Shoes stay on, laptops stay in bag, etc. TSA never approved those procedures after introducing the whole registered traveler program to begin with.
1. Create a mismanaged "security theatre"
2. Promise a way to skip it and not deliver
3. Profit!
Granted I enjoyed Clear, but always wished they could have delivered on the whole shoes, laptop, etc thing.
And don't bother with one of those "Checkpoint Friendly" laptop bags that open up. I was still forced to remove my laptop twice and was lucky enough to be able to return the bag.
The way in which they shutdown was a little too "Massingil Country Flower" for me.
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I join Spiff in celebrating the demise of Extorted Traveler. The TSA is run by goons, staffed by morons and operated on totalitarian principles. It's anti-democratic to allow anyone to buy their way to an easier time with the jackbooted thugs. The more we get frustrated at their ineptitude and uselessness, the more political pressure we can bring to bear to break them.
And yes, perhaps now Orlando will finally install elite lines rather than "pay us to cut in line" BS.
and i join the two of you. no offense meant to folks who paid for clear but it is/was a waste of money and afaic, i wouldn't trust the folks storing my personal data as far as i could throw them.
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just my humble opinion but i used to try and stop hockey pucks so what do i know . Nighthawks fans are everywhere
You might as well put your information up on a billboard as trust it to this disgusting, un-American agency.
To me, the personal information side of this is the big story (albeit getting suckered out of a couple hundred bucks stinks, too). Iris scans? Fingerprints? That's some serious stuff, no? Is there any reason, at this point, to trust a company that wound down their business in such a reckless and mysterious fashion?
and i join the two of you. no offense meant to folks who paid for clear but it is/was a waste of money and afaic, i wouldn't trust the folks storing my personal data as far as i could throw them.
Your opinion is noted, but it is exactly that ... and my opinion is that it was well worth the $159 I paid. That said, I might have paid the $199 the next year, but I'm darn glad I didn't pay for multiple years.
My biggest question is what can they do with the fingerprints and iris scans? The SSN's, etc, I'm not as worried about since I have credit monitoring (and some call that a waste too), but a digital fingerprint or iris scan to my knowledge can't be used to obtain a credit card fraudulently (yet). I know the conspiracy theorists and such will give me many reasons why, but they'd probably suggest a tin-foil hat too. I did a quick google and can't seem to find anything that tells me why I shouldn't give it out. The government already has my data (NEXUS) and I think I distrust the US government more than a private company like VIP. That being said, I hope they do make public the destruction of such data.
To me, the personal information side of this is the big story (albeit getting suckered out of a couple hundred bucks stinks, too). Iris scans? Fingerprints? That's some serious stuff, no? Is there any reason, at this point, to trust a company that wound down their business in such a reckless and mysterious fashion?
You might as well put your information up on a billboard as trust it to this disgusting, un-American agency.
. Nighthawks fans are everywhere
