Cars at LAS
Jul 22, 2015, 11:32 pm
#646
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: YYJ
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Posts: 2,438
According to Motortrend the Q50 does 0-60 in 5.2 and the 328i does 0-60 in 5.6. So the bimmer is a little slower but it's not in the "no power" category. The bimmer also pulls .9G on the skidpad vs .87 in the Q50. The bimmer stops shorter as well.
MPG? Q50 20/29 MPG vs. 328i 24/36 MPG. Not sure what the BMW hate is all about.
BTW, the ATS 2.0T is just a hair SLOWER in all tests (acceleration, handling, braking) than the 328i and still gets worse mileage.
EDIT: was googling dyno test on the 328i, and it made 240HP and 257lb-ft of torque at the wheels, so it's definitely underrated! While another google found the ATS made 239HP at the wheels and 252lb-ft of torque. I know not all Dyno's are created equal so don't consider those numbers as anything close to gospel.
MPG? Q50 20/29 MPG vs. 328i 24/36 MPG. Not sure what the BMW hate is all about.
BTW, the ATS 2.0T is just a hair SLOWER in all tests (acceleration, handling, braking) than the 328i and still gets worse mileage.
EDIT: was googling dyno test on the 328i, and it made 240HP and 257lb-ft of torque at the wheels, so it's definitely underrated! While another google found the ATS made 239HP at the wheels and 252lb-ft of torque. I know not all Dyno's are created equal so don't consider those numbers as anything close to gospel.
Last edited by Nitehawk; Jul 23, 2015 at 12:08 am
Jul 25, 2015, 1:39 pm
#647
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: MCO
Programs: DL-DM/1MM, HILTON-DIA, .HYATT-DIA/GLOB , IHG-PLT,HERTZ 5*, NATIONAL ES
Posts: 8,691
Picked up in LAS on Monday night and thought I was renting from Hertz again....
They only had crap cars in the EA/EE. No active xm. Nothing special. At least Hertz's Malibu/Impala have xm.....
I have been happy at many other National locations..
Not my best National experience. ...
They only had crap cars in the EA/EE. No active xm. Nothing special. At least Hertz's Malibu/Impala have xm.....
I have been happy at many other National locations..
Not my best National experience. ...
Last edited by Crazyhotelguy; Jul 25, 2015 at 1:48 pm
Jul 25, 2015, 9:29 pm
#648
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: MCI
Programs: National Executive, Hertz Five Star, Hilton Diamond, BW Diamond
Posts: 323
According to Motortrend the Q50 does 0-60 in 5.2 and the 328i does 0-60 in 5.6. So the bimmer is a little slower but it's not in the "no power" category. The bimmer also pulls .9G on the skidpad vs .87 in the Q50. The bimmer stops shorter as well.
MPG? Q50 20/29 MPG vs. 328i 24/36 MPG. Not sure what the BMW hate is all about.
BTW, the ATS 2.0T is just a hair SLOWER in all tests (acceleration, handling, braking) than the 328i and still gets worse mileage.
EDIT: was googling dyno test on the 328i, and it made 240HP and 257lb-ft of torque at the wheels, so it's definitely underrated! While another google found the ATS made 239HP at the wheels and 252lb-ft of torque. I know not all Dyno's are created equal so don't consider those numbers as anything close to gospel.
MPG? Q50 20/29 MPG vs. 328i 24/36 MPG. Not sure what the BMW hate is all about.
BTW, the ATS 2.0T is just a hair SLOWER in all tests (acceleration, handling, braking) than the 328i and still gets worse mileage.
EDIT: was googling dyno test on the 328i, and it made 240HP and 257lb-ft of torque at the wheels, so it's definitely underrated! While another google found the ATS made 239HP at the wheels and 252lb-ft of torque. I know not all Dyno's are created equal so don't consider those numbers as anything close to gospel.
Aug 3, 2015, 4:07 pm
#649
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: MCI
Programs: National Executive, Hertz Five Star, Hilton Diamond, BW Diamond
Posts: 323
ES Friday night at about 8:30 PM: Malibu, Camry, Camry, Malibu, Sonata, Camry and so on. Two Camaros. Took the Camaro. It was a bit beat up for a National car (didn't notice substantial scratches until the next morning) but it was a good car.
Sep 11, 2015, 8:52 pm
#651
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: MCI
Programs: National Executive, Hertz Five Star, Hilton Diamond, BW Diamond
Posts: 323
Sep 28, 2015, 4:28 pm
#652
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: UA Plat, National Exec Elite
Posts: 661
ES had a Grand Cherokee, a couple of Impalas and the usual suspects when I dropped off at 6AM this morning.
Last Wednesday morning, ES had a couple of Impalas, an Explorer Limited, and a GMC Terrain in addition to the usual sedans
For some reason the T1 shuttle bus to the airport had like 200 people waiting in line. Fortunately, I was going to T3 and had no line for the shuttle. What's going on with the T1 shuttle?
Last Wednesday morning, ES had a couple of Impalas, an Explorer Limited, and a GMC Terrain in addition to the usual sedans
For some reason the T1 shuttle bus to the airport had like 200 people waiting in line. Fortunately, I was going to T3 and had no line for the shuttle. What's going on with the T1 shuttle?
Oct 1, 2015, 11:41 am
#653
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 1
Picked up 10/1 at 10AM.
Usual vehicles. Really boring selection. Mostly Camry's, Altima's, Sonata's with a couple of Ford Fusion's and a Chrysler 300 thrown in the mix. Not one SUV/Van/etc. Not even a couple so-called 'Premium' vehicles thrown in. They were over on the Alamo/National Premium section. FWIW, I would never rent a premium car at this location, you're just going to get the cars that don't fit on any of the aisles. And in my opinion, there isn't enough of a difference between a Buick Lacrosse and a Chrysler 300 to justify extra cost.
Luxury had a reasonable selection, a couple Infiniti SUV's, an Audi A4, BMW 328i and a loaded Chrysler 300. At least it wasn't what some of these companies are trying to pass off as luxury. Sorry, but while a Buick Lacrosse may be a nice car, it's definitely NOT luxury.
Usual vehicles. Really boring selection. Mostly Camry's, Altima's, Sonata's with a couple of Ford Fusion's and a Chrysler 300 thrown in the mix. Not one SUV/Van/etc. Not even a couple so-called 'Premium' vehicles thrown in. They were over on the Alamo/National Premium section. FWIW, I would never rent a premium car at this location, you're just going to get the cars that don't fit on any of the aisles. And in my opinion, there isn't enough of a difference between a Buick Lacrosse and a Chrysler 300 to justify extra cost.
Luxury had a reasonable selection, a couple Infiniti SUV's, an Audi A4, BMW 328i and a loaded Chrysler 300. At least it wasn't what some of these companies are trying to pass off as luxury. Sorry, but while a Buick Lacrosse may be a nice car, it's definitely NOT luxury.
Oct 1, 2015, 12:47 pm
#654
Moderator: National Car
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SE MI
Programs: Delta PM, National EE, Hertz PC, Hilton DM
Posts: 2,168
Um, Buick Lacrosses and Chrysler 300's are the quintessential PCAR. I think most of us would take either of those over many of the other choices in that class.
Walk over to Hertz and those are the "luxury" choices!
Walk over to Hertz and those are the "luxury" choices!
Oct 6, 2015, 3:45 pm
#655
Used to be MBS PremExec
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Saginaw, MI (MBS)
Programs: UA 1K 1.9MM, Marriott Titanium w/Lifetime Plat, Hilton LIfetime ♢, National Exec, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,722
Arrived LAS yesterday, late evening...Exec Selection was lame, lame, lame. One mini van, a few Dodge Challengers and a host of Malibus and their Toyota/Kia equivalent...
I light-heartedly (jokingly, but hoping to elicit a response) said to the guy in a suit walking by, "Is this the best you've got for the Exec selection?!?!?" He said, "No! What are you looking for?" "An SUV or crossover or something bigger--but I don't want that mini van!"
"Well, follow me!" He took me to the midsize SUV aisle and said, take anything you want from here, or even grab one of those larger SUV if you want".
I'm in a new Ford Explorer with 4000 miles. Fully loaded--Nav and touch screen (just like my Lincoln at home), heated/cooled seats, leather, remote start, Sirius, front and rear camera, even the side view mirrors fold in).
I'm a National-er for life now.
I light-heartedly (jokingly, but hoping to elicit a response) said to the guy in a suit walking by, "Is this the best you've got for the Exec selection?!?!?" He said, "No! What are you looking for?" "An SUV or crossover or something bigger--but I don't want that mini van!"
"Well, follow me!" He took me to the midsize SUV aisle and said, take anything you want from here, or even grab one of those larger SUV if you want".
I'm in a new Ford Explorer with 4000 miles. Fully loaded--Nav and touch screen (just like my Lincoln at home), heated/cooled seats, leather, remote start, Sirius, front and rear camera, even the side view mirrors fold in).
I'm a National-er for life now.
Oct 10, 2015, 11:26 am
#656
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland/Palm Springs
Posts: 123
Picked up 10/2 FRI Evening.
EA: Three Fusions
Premium: Impala, 2016 Maxima, LaCrosse, Camaro, Challenger
I wanted to try the Maxima, but someone was in it, so we went with the LaCrosse. Actually a pretty nice car. Leather, huge sunroof, backup camera, sonar, smooth V6. They've come a long way from the Buick Century's of 10 years ago!
EA: Three Fusions
Premium: Impala, 2016 Maxima, LaCrosse, Camaro, Challenger
I wanted to try the Maxima, but someone was in it, so we went with the LaCrosse. Actually a pretty nice car. Leather, huge sunroof, backup camera, sonar, smooth V6. They've come a long way from the Buick Century's of 10 years ago!
Oct 15, 2015, 9:08 am
#657
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 202
Arrived LAS yesterday, late evening...Exec Selection was lame, lame, lame. One mini van, a few Dodge Challengers and a host of Malibus and their Toyota/Kia equivalent...
I light-heartedly (jokingly, but hoping to elicit a response) said to the guy in a suit walking by, "Is this the best you've got for the Exec selection?!?!?" He said, "No! What are you looking for?" "An SUV or crossover or something bigger--but I don't want that mini van!"
"Well, follow me!" He took me to the midsize SUV aisle and said, take anything you want from here, or even grab one of those larger SUV if you want".
I'm in a new Ford Explorer with 4000 miles. Fully loaded--Nav and touch screen (just like my Lincoln at home), heated/cooled seats, leather, remote start, Sirius, front and rear camera, even the side view mirrors fold in).
I'm a National-er for life now.
I light-heartedly (jokingly, but hoping to elicit a response) said to the guy in a suit walking by, "Is this the best you've got for the Exec selection?!?!?" He said, "No! What are you looking for?" "An SUV or crossover or something bigger--but I don't want that mini van!"
"Well, follow me!" He took me to the midsize SUV aisle and said, take anything you want from here, or even grab one of those larger SUV if you want".
I'm in a new Ford Explorer with 4000 miles. Fully loaded--Nav and touch screen (just like my Lincoln at home), heated/cooled seats, leather, remote start, Sirius, front and rear camera, even the side view mirrors fold in).
I'm a National-er for life now.
I went there 2 weeks ago (9/30) I went back in to the desk and asked the guy what the deal was with executive aisle, I told him at other airports, they allowed me to take a premium if I wanted since I was ES... this guy wouldn't budge, he said what we have is what we have... I ended up with an Altima...
Oct 20, 2015, 6:22 pm
#658
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portland/Palm Springs
Posts: 123
Rented again 10/16 (FRI) PM: EA had 10-12 cars. Mostly Altimas, Camrys, Malibus, Chrysler 200 and the one Fusion Titanium that we went with. The "hood ajar" light was on, we opened and closed the hood several times to no avail. Luckily with so much traffic in LAS, even if the hood pops open, you are just sitting in traffic, so it really isn't a safety hazard. It quite explains how I put almost 6 gallons of gas in the car to drive 87 miles.
Oct 21, 2015, 5:26 pm
#659
Join Date: Jul 2006
Programs: UA 1K/1MM; HH Diamond; GM for everything else
Posts: 544
Picked up 10/2 FRI Evening.
EA: Three Fusions
Premium: Impala, 2016 Maxima, LaCrosse, Camaro, Challenger
I wanted to try the Maxima, but someone was in it, so we went with the LaCrosse. Actually a pretty nice car. Leather, huge sunroof, backup camera, sonar, smooth V6. They've come a long way from the Buick Century's of 10 years ago!
EA: Three Fusions
Premium: Impala, 2016 Maxima, LaCrosse, Camaro, Challenger
I wanted to try the Maxima, but someone was in it, so we went with the LaCrosse. Actually a pretty nice car. Leather, huge sunroof, backup camera, sonar, smooth V6. They've come a long way from the Buick Century's of 10 years ago!