Need expert advise on redeeming free days
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: VX Gold/WN Companion
Posts: 682
Need expert advise on redeeming free days
OK experts, I am EE. I will usually book "Full Size" as there are often the larger vehicles I want like SUV's and trucks are stashed in the full size row and it ends up being the same price at checkout as selecting midsize with Executive Aisle access...plus still get aisle access if pickins are slim and I don't have to try and talk the agent into giving up the keys to a larger vehicle.
Now...going on a trip for the Holidays and wanna redeem my 3 remaining free days for a 4 day trip. When I book the reservation normally, I have the fullsize and mid size option. When I book the reservation applying my three free days, the full size option disappears. Only mid size then premium.
What gives? Am I approaching this wrong.
Can I make a full size reservation then call in to have them apply my free days? This trip I actually need a vehicle with space.
Now...going on a trip for the Holidays and wanna redeem my 3 remaining free days for a 4 day trip. When I book the reservation normally, I have the fullsize and mid size option. When I book the reservation applying my three free days, the full size option disappears. Only mid size then premium.
What gives? Am I approaching this wrong.
Can I make a full size reservation then call in to have them apply my free days? This trip I actually need a vehicle with space.
#2
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 111
As EE, can't you book premium and get charged the fullsize rate? Just make note of the fullsize price without using free days, then make your reservation with the free days applied. The 4th (paid) day should match the price of what the fullsize was in the previous step.
When you get to the lot, look at the Exec. aisle, if you see something you like then ask the gate agent to change the rate back to midsize when you leave (which is what you normally get charged booking full).
If you need a vehicle with space, such as an SUV, I don't see you having any problem asking for a Yukon, Tahoe, Suburban, maybe even something above that on a premium reservation.
When you get to the lot, look at the Exec. aisle, if you see something you like then ask the gate agent to change the rate back to midsize when you leave (which is what you normally get charged booking full).
If you need a vehicle with space, such as an SUV, I don't see you having any problem asking for a Yukon, Tahoe, Suburban, maybe even something above that on a premium reservation.
#3
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: VX Gold/WN Companion
Posts: 682
Yeah...but I was trying to book the full size rate at mid size price.
Found another thread on PCAR limitations on free days and sure enough, I was able to do what I wanted on the mobile app, but not on the website for some reason.
Found another thread on PCAR limitations on free days and sure enough, I was able to do what I wanted on the mobile app, but not on the website for some reason.
#4
formerly memoses
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York City
Programs: DL PM, SPG Plat, Hyatt Something or another, HH Blue :), National EE, Sixt Plat
Posts: 136
I'm not sure in other markets, but in NYC and Illinois, the inability to reserve a full-size or higher car when you apply a free day on the website has become the norm in my experience. And correct, as Elite Executive, you should be able to reserve any car.
I find that whoever is running the inventory in various markets has a new ability to limit coupons, free days, and corporate availability. It's becoming frustrating.
With that said, the work around as an EE is to reserve whatever car you want without clicking the free days, and just call into customer support either before or after the reservation and they will usually apply the free day with no hesitation.
I find that whoever is running the inventory in various markets has a new ability to limit coupons, free days, and corporate availability. It's becoming frustrating.
With that said, the work around as an EE is to reserve whatever car you want without clicking the free days, and just call into customer support either before or after the reservation and they will usually apply the free day with no hesitation.
#5
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 777
Am getting the message NYC locations really don't like free days. Have mentioned once already a few persons at National in NYC have mentioned they play havoc with their inventory. Exactly how or why I don't know or understand.
It has only been rather recently that National allowed EC free days to be redeemed for Manhattan rentals, and coupons are still not accepted. Am really hoping they don't revert to their previous policy.
It has only been rather recently that National allowed EC free days to be redeemed for Manhattan rentals, and coupons are still not accepted. Am really hoping they don't revert to their previous policy.
#6
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York suburbs
Posts: 4,207
It's easy to see why. High prices, such as in NYC, are intended to control demand, extract high value customers for scarce inventory, and discourage behavior, such as waiting until the last minute, or long distance one-way roadtrips that run up mileage and result in cars potentially short in busy markets but a glut where they're not needed. If you redeem a free day, you bypass the high price disincentives for all of the above, especially if it's on short notice.
#7
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,875
Am getting the message NYC locations really don't like free days. Have mentioned once already a few persons at National in NYC have mentioned they play havoc with their inventory. Exactly how or why I don't know or understand.
It has only been rather recently that National allowed EC free days to be redeemed for Manhattan rentals, and coupons are still not accepted. Am really hoping they don't revert to their previous policy.
It has only been rather recently that National allowed EC free days to be redeemed for Manhattan rentals, and coupons are still not accepted. Am really hoping they don't revert to their previous policy.
#8
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 777
Coupons are anything from OTF, issued by EC customer service, to the various promotions and special offers. None of these are accepted at Manhattan, NYC locations. The airports (JFK, LGA, Newark) yes, but not inside the City.
If you did manage to rent and or have a OTF coupon applied to a rental from Manhattan, NYC please let me know how; as have tried numerous times and been shot down.
#9
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 880
#10
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 375
Just as a side note, I wanted to say how much I love regular free days as an EE. Just finished a one way SUV rental for 4 days, and the receipt has a $2,000 discount, since this particular station charges max daily rate for one ways, and I couldn't use my contract since one way SUV rentals are charged mileage and I needed to guarantee one.
#11
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 777
Just as a side note, I wanted to say how much I love regular free days as an EE. Just finished a one way SUV rental for 4 days, and the receipt has a $2,000 discount, since this particular station charges max daily rate for one ways, and I couldn't use my contract since one way SUV rentals are charged mileage and I needed to guarantee one.
Quite honestly find regular EE days of more value and "fun" than those from OTF. No hassles in redeeming, no wondering if this or that place is a "participating location".
#12
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 880
Since I usually rent from LGA I don't have to worry about that and Tbh I'm fine with the aisle choices most of the time....Nothing outright terrible on it.
#13
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Paradise
Posts: 144
Well yeah, as an EE you can rent anything up to a luxury with the regular EE free day coupon. My last EE free rental coupon was used on a BMW. The OTF is limited to a mid size (or full size when you upgrade). Or were you talking about Manhattan specifically?
#14
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 777
Coupons in general versus EC free reward days IMHO are far less flexible, and not just in Manhattan, NYC. Some are only accepted at "participating" locations only. Others are for multiple days that National either cannot or will not allow splitting into smaller segments.
Case in point have a few coupons issued by National to address various hiccups in past. Thought they were giving me EC free days into my account, but no; these are good for three or four days.
Now while they are "free" so far have not been able to book anything less than what the coupon requires. That is cannot book two days and use a three day coupon. Nor can get a National customer service or counter rep to apply say two of the three and leave the balance. So just ended up using normal EC free days instead.
Happily the coupons have a long time before expiration, so will wait until need a rental for a period that matches or is longer.
#15
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 777
This time of year rentals out of Manhattan for all Enterprise companies are much cheaper than at airports due to it being low demand season. So while it in theory does not make a difference when using "free" days (coupons or EC reward), it seems rather a waste IMHO to go all the way out to LGA to use a coupon for a rental that is around $100/day, when can have a vehicle in town for about half that amount.
More so since one tends to take a taxi out to LGA and drive back into Manhattan over the TB. Yes, I know can take the BQE or other routes down to one of the free East River crossings to get back into Manhattan, but that is really a round about way since live uptown and the TB pretty much gets me home in <20 minutes (depending upon traffic).