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Programs in Which Points/Miles Never Expire
Airlines
Hotels
Expiring Points/Miles & How to Reset the Clock
Airlines
Format is Airline (airline IATA code) program name: duration (methods to reset expiration)
"Hard expiry" means expiration clock cannot be reset through normal earning/redemption.
Hotels
Miscellaneous
Edit
15 Jan 2018. VX ffp absorbed by AS following takeover
10 Feb 2018 Added VS link. AB closed
23 Feb 2018 Added EgyptAir
18 Mar 2018 renamed / relinked Club Carlson to Radisson Rewards
19 Mar 2018 Added IB thread
27 Apr 2018 Added new Avianca policy thread
16 May 2018 Added EK reinstate link
14 Aug 2018 Added Hyatt link
23 Aug 2018 AC to buy back Aeroplan ffp
18 Nov 2018 Added AC link
11 Dec 2018 EK Plat no expiry
20 Apr 2019 Starwood taken over. Jetairways stopped flying
15 May 2019 Added CA, AY, RJ, SK
03 Nov 2019 Added Radisson link
16 Nov 2019 Added Intermiles Program (former JetPrivilege) link
16 Nov 2019 Updated Eithad
23 Nov 2019 Added Shangri-La Golden Circle to hotels, moved Southwest to non-expiring
10 Dec 2019 Cathay Pacific Asia Miles. Hard expiry to 18 months if no activity
10 Dec 2019 In hotels, noted that La Quinta is now just part of Wyndham Rewards (not a separate program any more)
11 Jan 2020 In hotels, updated Hilton for 15 months (previously 12 months) + updated Accor to new ALL program with new 365 days (old program has 1 year)
26 Jan 2020 Fixing [s t r i k e ] to [ s ] issue caused by 20 Jan 2020 software downgrade to formatting
01 Jul 2020 EY platinum status miles do not expire
21 Jul 2020 AC Expiry due to non activity was 12 months. Now 18 months
12 Aug 2020 Added AF/KLM link
26 Sep 2020 Added VS points now do not expire
26 Sep 2020 Updated LATAM to point out horrible change to hard expiration (at least for USA and European based members)
04 Oct 2020 Formatting improvements
31 Oct 2020 Updated link to QF T&Cs
28 Nov 2020 Added link for BA
09 Feb 2021 Added link for CX
18 Apr 2021 Added that HA miles no longer expire
07 Aug 2021 Updated link to AC T&C
21 Dec 2021 QR from hard expiry to 36 months if no activity. ITA Airways added
5 May 2022 Hilton clock expanded to 24 mos.
Airlines
- Delta (DL) Skymiles: link (click SkyMiles Rules & Conditions, then Account Deletion & Mileage Expiration)
- Hawaiian (HA) HawaiianMiles (as of 12 Apr 2021)
- JetBlue (B6) Trueblue
- Southwest (WN) Rapid Rewards 17 Oct 2019 Link--> CP requirement goes to 125K 1/1/20; points no longer expire
- Ukrainian International Airlines (PS) Panorama Club
- United UA MileagePlus 28 Aug 2019 Link--> United announces "MileagePlus Miles Never Expire" (effective immediately)
- Virgin Atlantic VS Flying Club 24 Sep 2020 Link--->Flying Club points are now Virgin Points - and they don't expire
Hotels
- Best Western (for members of the North American club, which includes members who reside in North/Central/South America, Asia, and South Africa)
Expiring Points/Miles & How to Reset the Clock
Airlines
Format is Airline (airline IATA code) program name: duration (methods to reset expiration)
"Hard expiry" means expiration clock cannot be reset through normal earning/redemption.
- Aeromexico (AM) Club Premier: 24 months (earning, but not redemption) (T&C)
- Aegean (A3)
- Aerolineas Argentinas (AR) Aerolíneas Plus: 3 years (resettable by paid AR flight or by redeeming flight with miles, but not by any other activity)
Air Berlin (AB) Topbonus: hard expiration 3 years after the end of the quarter in which miles were earned (unless you maintain "Gold/Plat" status?)Shut down 2017- Air Canada (AC) Aeroplan: 18 months (any activity) (see “Account inactivity” in T&C)
- AP Just wiped out my account - now what???
- How to prevent Aeroplan miles from expiring if not live in Canada?
WARNING: While in theory Air Canada Aeroplan miles seemed until recently like they could last "forever" (with periodic "activity"), Air Canada has announced they will be instituting their own program circa 2020. It is not clear if Aeroplan miles not used by then will continue to be usable for Air Canada flights much after that. Refer to this thread in the AC forum Air Canada to Launch Its Own Loyalty Program in 2020- Air Canada to buy back Aeroplan (22 Aug 2018) Aimia accepts Air Canada, TD, CIBC & Visa revised $450-million Aeroplan bid
- Air France (AF) Flying Blue: 24 months (resettable through a very few specific methods, mostly by qualifying paid SkyTeam flight) except for Elite / Elite Plus members
- Avoid Flying Blue Expiration
- Preventing miles from expiry Has links to other AF expiry threads
- Extending FB miles other than skyteam flight?
- Testing the limits of miles expiration
- Flying Blue Expiration Policy started March 2019
- Air China (CA) Phoenix Miles : 36 months hard expiry
- Air India (AI) Flying Returns: 36 months hard expiry; can extend for a fee (Clause 4.24)
- Alaska (AS) Mileage Plan: 2 years (any activity)
- Alitalia (AZ)
MilleMiglia: 2 years (earning, but not redemption)(web page)Bankrupt 2021 - All Nippon Airways (NH) ANA Mileage Club: 3 years hard expiration unless you maintain "Diamond Service" status
- American Airlines (AA) AAdvantage: 18 months (any activity: General AAdvantage program T&C, unnumbered third item) extend expired miles
- Asiana (OZ) Asiana Club: hard expiration of 10 years (Diamond & higher tier) or 12 years. No expiration for miles earned before October 1, 2008.
- Avianca (AV) LifeMiles:
24 month12 month effective 15 Apr 2018 (earn, redeem), except 24 month for those with status or Avianca credit card T&Cs- New Expiration Policy (15 Apr 2018): 12 months from last accrual, redemption has no effect
- LifeMiles Expiration Thread started 23 Jan 2019
- British Airways (BA) Executive Club: 3 years (Earn, Redeem, Purchase, Transfer. section 14.4 of T&C)
- Best / Cheapest Way to Save Expiring Avios Points
- Miles Expiry in a Household Account
- Best way to extend avios beyond the 36 months-period
- Keeping account active when not spending avios Has links to other threads
- Newbie avios question Expirimg avios in household account
- Brussels (SN) Miles & More: see Lufthansa below
- Cathay (CX) Asia Miles/Marco Polo: 18 months, if no activity. Old miles, earned before 01 Jan 2020, expire, unless pay a USD$40 fee
3 years hard expiry: 3-year extension for a fee possible if done before expiration (see "Your Account" FAQ #1)- Asia Miles - no expiry as long as there is activity every 18 months
- Asia Miles extension -- does redeeming and canceling "reset" the expiry clock?
- Asia Miles expiration in time of Coronavirus
- Copa Airlines (CM) ConnectMiles: 2 years (any activity)
- El Al (LY) Matmid Club: 3 years hard expiry (see section 9.1 of T&Cs)
- EgyptAir (MS) EgyptAir Plus Blue, silver & gold status 36 months hard expiry from each flight date. No expiry for Platinum. link
- Emirates (EK) Skywards: Member's next birth month + 3 years hard expiry (see section 8 of T&C). No expiry when Plat (link below)
- Etihad (EY) Etihad Guest: 18 Months of no activity. EY platinum guest miles do not expire (from 01Jul2020)
- EVA Air (BR) Infinity MileageLands: 36 months hard expiration (see Mileage Validity section in T&Cs)
- Finnair (AY) Plus: 18 months (activity)
- Finnair Plus Rules Section 3.4
- Frontier (F9)
- Garuda Indonesia (GA) GarudaMiles: 3 years hard expiry; 3-year extension through Buy to Extend (see Mileage Expiry section of FAQ and then Buy To Extend right above that)
- Hawaiian (HA) HawaiianMiles
: 18 months (any activity: expiration policy web page)No expiry as above - Iberia (IB) Iberia Plus:3 years (earn or redeem, but not transfer: near bottom of FAQs)
- ITA Airways (AZ) Volare. The airline was unable to inherit Alitalia's MilleMiglia loyalty program after being barred from doing so by the European Commission. Expiry to be advised
- Japan Airlines (JL) Mileage Bank: hard expiry on the last day of the 36th month after earning; Suspension of mileage expiration for JGC Premier and JMB Diamond
- Jet Airways (9W) JetPrivilege:
3 years hard expiry, with longer expiration for JP CC holders & no expiration for JP Plat status; see T&Cs section 12.5 onward- Jet Airways stopped flying 17 April 2019
- link 1 and link 2
- JetPrivilege Loyality continuing Information from JetPrivilege loyality
- 9W Frequent Flyer Program - Jet Privilege [Locked]
- Intermiles Program (former JetPrivilege) [15 Nov 2019]
- Korean (KE) Skypass: 10 years hard expiry if earned after 1 July 2008; no expiration if earned before that (Skypass membership guide page 4)
- KLM (KL) FlyingBlue: See Air France/KLM above
- LATAM
LAN(LA) LATAM Pass:3 years (paid LAN flight)hard expiration: 2 years, with no known reset, for US and European members at least - Lufthansa (LH) Miles & More: 3 years hard expiration (section 2.5 of T&C) Miles do not expire if you have elite status or a (US) credit card where you make at least one purchase a month.
- Malaysia (MH) Enrich Miles: 3 to 3.99 years hard expiry; 1-year extension for a fee possible if done before expiration (see FAQ - expand "Managing" section )
- Phillipine (PR) Mabuhay Miles: (official 2013 announcement) (after any activity in 2 consecutive years)
- Qantas (QF) Frequent Flyer: 18 months (earn or spend, but not transfer: As 9.2 of T&Cs)
- Just lost over 500k points Has links to other threads on how to keep QF points alive
- Qatar (QR) Privilege Club: Expiry if no eligible activity in 36 months. (link). No expiration for Platinum members
- Royal Jordanian (RJ) Royal Plus: 18 Months (Activity) Reinstate Miles
- SAS (SK) Eurobonus: 4 Years hard expiry
- Eurobonus terms and condition (Section 3.9)
- Singapore (SQ) KrisFlyer: 3 years hard expiry; slight one-time extension possible for a fee if done before expiration (see sections B.17-B.20 of T&C)
- South African Airways (SA) Voyager: 3 years hard expiry (see section 11 of T&C)
- Southwest (WN) Rapid Rewards:
2 years (earn) - Thai Airways (TG) Royal Orchid Plus: 3 years hard expiration at end of a quarter (see section 14 of T&Cs)
- Turkish Airlines (TK) Miles & Smiles: 3 years, but can extend for a fee Validity of Miles and a news link
- United Airline (UA) MileagePlus:
18 months (any activity)Now do not expire. Refer above - Virgin America (VX)
Elevate: 18 months (any activity: Elevate info web page)Mile Expiration- VX ffp absorbed by AS 01 Jan 2018
- Virgin Australia (VA) Velocity: 24 months (earn or redeem, but not transfers) Link
- Virgin Atlantic (VS) Flying Club:
3 years(earn, redeem, purchase) From 24 Sep 2020 points do not expire.Refer above
Hotels
- Accor ALL: 365 days (an eligible stay, see section 7.6 )
- Choice Privileges: 18 months most activity (transitioned from 2-2.99 years hard in Feb 2016)
- Hilton HHonors: 24 months
15 months1 year(redeem, earn, purchase, donate) (T&C/General, section 13) - Hyatt Gold Passport (new name: World of Hyatt): 2 years (any activity) (General T&Cs #3)
- IHG Rewards Club: Gold/Platinum/Spire level - No Expiry. Basic ('club') level expires after 1 year (any activity see section 13 of T&C)
- La Quinta:
18 months (earn, redeemnow part of Wyndham Rewards (see below) since April 2019 program merger - Marriott Bonvoy (Rewards): 2 years (stay, redeem, credit card; see General Membership section 8 of T&Cs)
- Radisson Rewards (formerly Club Carlson): 2 years (earn or redeem)
- Ritz Carlton Rewards: same policy & T&Cs as Marriott Rewards
- Shangri-La Golden Circle: End of the calendar year the points were earned plus 2 years hard expiry (item D. i. 8. in T&C.
Starwood Preferred Guest:1 year (any activity)Taken over by Marriott- Wyndham Rewards: 18 months of inactivity (reset by any activity) PLUS hard expiry after 4 years.
Miscellaneous
- Amtrak Guest Rewards: 2 years (any activity or hold credit card)
- Hertz
Edit
15 Jan 2018. VX ffp absorbed by AS following takeover
10 Feb 2018 Added VS link. AB closed
23 Feb 2018 Added EgyptAir
18 Mar 2018 renamed / relinked Club Carlson to Radisson Rewards
19 Mar 2018 Added IB thread
27 Apr 2018 Added new Avianca policy thread
16 May 2018 Added EK reinstate link
14 Aug 2018 Added Hyatt link
23 Aug 2018 AC to buy back Aeroplan ffp
18 Nov 2018 Added AC link
11 Dec 2018 EK Plat no expiry
20 Apr 2019 Starwood taken over. Jetairways stopped flying
15 May 2019 Added CA, AY, RJ, SK
03 Nov 2019 Added Radisson link
16 Nov 2019 Added Intermiles Program (former JetPrivilege) link
16 Nov 2019 Updated Eithad
23 Nov 2019 Added Shangri-La Golden Circle to hotels, moved Southwest to non-expiring
10 Dec 2019 Cathay Pacific Asia Miles. Hard expiry to 18 months if no activity
10 Dec 2019 In hotels, noted that La Quinta is now just part of Wyndham Rewards (not a separate program any more)
11 Jan 2020 In hotels, updated Hilton for 15 months (previously 12 months) + updated Accor to new ALL program with new 365 days (old program has 1 year)
26 Jan 2020 Fixing [s t r i k e ] to [ s ] issue caused by 20 Jan 2020 software downgrade to formatting
01 Jul 2020 EY platinum status miles do not expire
21 Jul 2020 AC Expiry due to non activity was 12 months. Now 18 months
12 Aug 2020 Added AF/KLM link
26 Sep 2020 Added VS points now do not expire
26 Sep 2020 Updated LATAM to point out horrible change to hard expiration (at least for USA and European based members)
04 Oct 2020 Formatting improvements
31 Oct 2020 Updated link to QF T&Cs
28 Nov 2020 Added link for BA
09 Feb 2021 Added link for CX
18 Apr 2021 Added that HA miles no longer expire
07 Aug 2021 Updated link to AC T&C
21 Dec 2021 QR from hard expiry to 36 months if no activity. ITA Airways added
5 May 2022 Hilton clock expanded to 24 mos.
Miles/Points that Do and Don't Expire
#1
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Chicago
Programs: Delta SkyMiles, IHG (Platinum Elite), Amtrak Guest Rewards, Marriott Bonvoy, Hilton Honors
Posts: 636
Miles/Points that Do and Don't Expire
I thought it would be nice to have a post where we could keep track of all the various miles, rewards, and points programs and when/if their miles/points expire (and if so, how quickly) - I'm sure we all have many, many rewards memberships, and sometimes these things are hard to keep track of. I'll start off, and feel free to add (I can always edit the post to make additions). I'd especially appreciate additions for other airlines, as I'm very loyal to Delta (due to a ridiculous number of unfortunate experiences on literally every other airline)
Non-Expiring Points/Miles
-Skymiles
Expiring (+ activity that "resets" expiration date)
-Starwood Starpoints (1 year, resettable by staying at a property)
-Marriott (1 year?)
-Amtrak Guest Rewards (3(?), resettable by any activity)
-Wyndham Rewards (18 months resettable by any activity; 4 years "hard" expiration)
-AA (18 months, resettable by any activity)
-UA (18 months, resettable by any activity)
-LAN (3 years "hard" expiration)
Non-Expiring Points/Miles
-Skymiles
Expiring (+ activity that "resets" expiration date)
-Starwood Starpoints (1 year, resettable by staying at a property)
-Marriott (1 year?)
-Amtrak Guest Rewards (3(?), resettable by any activity)
-Wyndham Rewards (18 months resettable by any activity; 4 years "hard" expiration)
-AA (18 months, resettable by any activity)
-UA (18 months, resettable by any activity)
-LAN (3 years "hard" expiration)
Last edited by DrRodneyMcKay; Aug 29, 2015 at 10:46 am
#2
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You need to be more specific about expiring. In some cases, it's just expiring with no activity, in other cases it's "hard expiration" which activity can't defer.
For an extreme example of that WyndhamRewards has two types of expiration: 18 months resettable by any activity, but 4 years "hard expiration" that can't be avoided.
Choice Privileges has only "hard" expiration, 2.00 to 2.99 years after you earn the points (on Dec 30 of two years from when you earn them). (Choice says "Dec 31", but they do it early in the morning of Dec 31, so it's much safer to think of it as "Dec 30"! )
Amtrak Guest Rewards (AGR) is changing soon. But up to now, it hasn't been reset by non-paid-Amtrak-travel activity. So people transferred points in, planning to use them for something, and found they expired almost immediately! Up to now, the only way to avoid Amtrak expiration as a rare Amtrak passenger has been to have the AGR credit card (from Chase up to now, but it may move to a different bank soon).
So a chart that simply says how long the expiration is will be misleading, IMHO. It needs an explanation of what (if anything) resets which (if there are multiple kinds) of expiration.
In airlines, an example of this complication is LAN: LAN kms expire three years after you earn them, not resettable by most activity, but all your kms reset for another three years if you take a paid LAN flight that earns LAN kms.
AA is 18 months resettable by any activity.
UA is 18 months resettable by any activity.
Btw, please note that "activity" in the context of expiration always means earning or redeeming in that program. One person over in the AA/US forum who had lifetime miles at US and then never flew US for years assumed that logging into their account occasionally counted as "activity", for the purpose of maintaining their account, but it didn't, and right before US Dividend Miles merged into AA AAdvantage miles, that person's US account was purged for inactivity, along with their lifetime miles.
For an extreme example of that WyndhamRewards has two types of expiration: 18 months resettable by any activity, but 4 years "hard expiration" that can't be avoided.
Choice Privileges has only "hard" expiration, 2.00 to 2.99 years after you earn the points (on Dec 30 of two years from when you earn them). (Choice says "Dec 31", but they do it early in the morning of Dec 31, so it's much safer to think of it as "Dec 30"! )
Amtrak Guest Rewards (AGR) is changing soon. But up to now, it hasn't been reset by non-paid-Amtrak-travel activity. So people transferred points in, planning to use them for something, and found they expired almost immediately! Up to now, the only way to avoid Amtrak expiration as a rare Amtrak passenger has been to have the AGR credit card (from Chase up to now, but it may move to a different bank soon).
So a chart that simply says how long the expiration is will be misleading, IMHO. It needs an explanation of what (if anything) resets which (if there are multiple kinds) of expiration.
In airlines, an example of this complication is LAN: LAN kms expire three years after you earn them, not resettable by most activity, but all your kms reset for another three years if you take a paid LAN flight that earns LAN kms.
AA is 18 months resettable by any activity.
UA is 18 months resettable by any activity.
Btw, please note that "activity" in the context of expiration always means earning or redeeming in that program. One person over in the AA/US forum who had lifetime miles at US and then never flew US for years assumed that logging into their account occasionally counted as "activity", for the purpose of maintaining their account, but it didn't, and right before US Dividend Miles merged into AA AAdvantage miles, that person's US account was purged for inactivity, along with their lifetime miles.
#3
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Chicago
Programs: Delta SkyMiles, IHG (Platinum Elite), Amtrak Guest Rewards, Marriott Bonvoy, Hilton Honors
Posts: 636
Heh. I actually literally *just* got the e-mail from Amtrak about changes in their guest rewards program - the shift towards revenue based miles and all that. Their miles still expire, though now they count activity as "earning and redeeming miles" but that's really particularly helpful in my opinion.
I agree that any kind of chart/post like this would need to be detailed about the kind of activity that prevents or doesn't prevent expiration; that's why I'm hoping others post and contribute, as I tend to stick very loyally to a few select programs and know their rules, but am unfamiliar with the rules of those programs with which I stay once every couple of years.
Thanks for your contribution - I'm editing the above post to add what you said.
I agree that any kind of chart/post like this would need to be detailed about the kind of activity that prevents or doesn't prevent expiration; that's why I'm hoping others post and contribute, as I tend to stick very loyally to a few select programs and know their rules, but am unfamiliar with the rules of those programs with which I stay once every couple of years.
Thanks for your contribution - I'm editing the above post to add what you said.
Last edited by DrRodneyMcKay; Aug 29, 2015 at 10:46 am
#4
Join Date: May 2003
Programs: AA (1MM), Marriott (LT Gold)
Posts: 1,766
Starwood - I know dining at a participating Starwood restaurant over a certain dollar amount ($10? without tax or tip) keeps your account alive, but it appears that the T&C's now say any redemption or earnings activity keeps an account alive.
#5
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Perhaps someone else will come up with a with a better candidate, but I nominate Frontier Airlines for most absurd expiration requirement (6 months). This apparently will occur even though the airline can't program its own website to give a customer the correct expiration date (it typically shows an expiration date 6 months from the current date no matter when your last activity occurred).
#6
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Chicago
Programs: Delta SkyMiles, IHG (Platinum Elite), Amtrak Guest Rewards, Marriott Bonvoy, Hilton Honors
Posts: 636
I'm starting to see the value of getting a credit card for most hotel brands - spending counts as "activity" no matter how miniscule and that way your miles never expire. That's why I'm planning on getting one of the Hilton cards (the one without the fee) so that my Hilton points never expire. I also checked out Starwood's dining program, but there's about four qualifying restaurants in the entire city of Philadelphia, so unfortunately that option is probably out (I have their credit card at the moment, but that probably won't last forever).
Frontier Airlines - I have actually never heard of them (possibly for good reason - that sounds like a ridiculous requirement).
Frontier Airlines - I have actually never heard of them (possibly for good reason - that sounds like a ridiculous requirement).
#7
Join Date: May 2003
Programs: AA (1MM), Marriott (LT Gold)
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I'm starting to see the value of getting a credit card for most hotel brands - spending counts as "activity" no matter how miniscule and that way your miles never expire. That's why I'm planning on getting one of the Hilton cards (the one without the fee) so that my Hilton points never expire. I also checked out Starwood's dining program, but there's about four qualifying restaurants in the entire city of Philadelphia, so unfortunately that option is probably out (I have their credit card at the moment, but that probably won't last forever).
Frontier Airlines - I have actually never heard of them (possibly for good reason - that sounds like a ridiculous requirement).
Frontier Airlines - I have actually never heard of them (possibly for good reason - that sounds like a ridiculous requirement).
#8
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Just to be clear, Starwood doesn't have the standard iDine program that many airlines have. You just need to eat at one of their on-property restaurants and make sure that the restaurant will let you charge your dining costs to a room at the hotel. If those criteria are met and you spend enough (I think it's $10 w/o tax or tip), then you can have the restaurant or the front desk submit the activity to Starwood for points. I'm not familiar with all of the Starwood properties in Philadelphia, but I would think there are more than 4 properties that have qualifying restaurants, so you may have more options than you think.
#9
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But wouldn't you have to be staying at the hotel to charge the dining costs to a room? (Sorry for the confusion - if you're staying at the hotel anyway that'd already count as activity). I just found out that Starwood has a dining program to begin with, and I admit, it's confusing. As to Starwood properties in Philly, I just checked and there's 9 in the city itself, and not all have restaurants (Philly is a weird city)
SQ redeemable miles have a hard expiration date, IIRC three years after they were earned/credited to the account.
Somewhat OT, but several years ago BestBuy had a frequent buyer program with points expiring at the end of the calendar year in which they were earned. I haven't purchased anything there since then, so I don't know whether there's still a program with the same rules.
#10
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This is the type of thing that would work best as a wikipost, so all info can be seen in one place.
I've taken the liberty to create the wiki, and copied in the data from the 1st post, with a mild reformat, corrected the data for marriott, added reset data for SPG, and added BA avios
I've taken the liberty to create the wiki, and copied in the data from the 1st post, with a mild reformat, corrected the data for marriott, added reset data for SPG, and added BA avios
Last edited by tangey; Sep 10, 2015 at 10:07 am
#11
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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This is the type of thing that would work best as a wikipost, so all info can be seen in one place.
I've taken the liberty to create the wiki, and copied in the data from the 1st post, with a mild reformat, corrected the data for marriott, added reset data for SPG, and added BA avios
I've taken the liberty to create the wiki, and copied in the data from the 1st post, with a mild reformat, corrected the data for marriott, added reset data for SPG, and added BA avios
#12
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Join Date: Aug 2015
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No, the point is that you can earn Starpoints from spending in *some* Starwood hotel restaurants even if you're not staying there. The rule about whether you could do a room charge at that restaurant or not is a way to distinguish restaurants that are part of the hotel and those that operate out of space leased from the hotel. In at least some jurisdictions, not that purchases of alcohol would not count for the $10 or earn any points.
SQ redeemable miles have a hard expiration date, IIRC three years after they were earned/credited to the account.
Somewhat OT, but several years ago BestBuy had a frequent buyer program with points expiring at the end of the calendar year in which they were earned. I haven't purchased anything there since then, so I don't know whether there's still a program with the same rules.
SQ redeemable miles have a hard expiration date, IIRC three years after they were earned/credited to the account.
Somewhat OT, but several years ago BestBuy had a frequent buyer program with points expiring at the end of the calendar year in which they were earned. I haven't purchased anything there since then, so I don't know whether there's still a program with the same rules.
#13
Join Date: Mar 2011
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I didn't realise you didn't have edit rights when I thought about the wiki.
#14
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That's okay; 90 days isn't that long and I"m sure by that time I'll have more than 90 posts. In the meantime, I hope others will edit the wiki - I posted all I knew to it, so contributions by others who have been around longer will probably be more helpful anyway.
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Not quite; it's resettable with a paid LAN flight, though not with other activity. (Btw, I don't know whether a LAN partner flight credited to LAN would count, or whether it actually has to be a LAN flight number credit to LAN.)
I updated the wiki to clarify that.
I updated the wiki to clarify that.