What's your plan? Hoard miles or burn em if you got em?
#1
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: En Route
Programs: Many
Posts: 6,798
What's your plan? Hoard miles or burn em if you got em?
With the wave of devaluations going on across pretty much every program, what are you doing with your miles now? Trying to sit on a pile and hoard more for an aspirational trip, or burning them as fast as you can on future trips you may or may not take just to get them on the books? I have been trying to burn, burn, burn (which I successfully did with just about all my UA miles), but as a result, I have no time left to plug more trips in this year, and I'm worried other miles will be devalued before I can burn them.
#2
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Boulder
Programs: AA Plat, CX Silver
Posts: 2,361
Earn 'n burn.
Just after UA's devaluation was announced I hopped on the LH YYZ-MUC F train and booked a trip to Berlin and the Alps. Using a bunch of Club Carlson points along the way.
The day of the UA devaluation, I booked BR's Hello Kitty service TYO-TPE in J for the hell of it and then added in DEN-ORD-NRT on AA/JL F and HKG-LAX-DEN on CX/AA F. Going in November.
Burning Hyatt points in Tokyo, SPG in TPE and HHonors in HKG. In fact, all 12 nights are on points.
I'll probably hold on to a small stash of AA miles (~150k right now) and keep earning those. I'm focusing Chase points on Hyatt and KE going forward.
Just after UA's devaluation was announced I hopped on the LH YYZ-MUC F train and booked a trip to Berlin and the Alps. Using a bunch of Club Carlson points along the way.
The day of the UA devaluation, I booked BR's Hello Kitty service TYO-TPE in J for the hell of it and then added in DEN-ORD-NRT on AA/JL F and HKG-LAX-DEN on CX/AA F. Going in November.
Burning Hyatt points in Tokyo, SPG in TPE and HHonors in HKG. In fact, all 12 nights are on points.
I'll probably hold on to a small stash of AA miles (~150k right now) and keep earning those. I'm focusing Chase points on Hyatt and KE going forward.
#3
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: AA 1MM, Hyatt GP Platinum, *wood Gold
Posts: 173
What's your plan? Hoard miles or burn em if you got em?
Burn baby burn! I'm an elite member with AAdvantage, so I use my miles to book 4-5 star boutique hotels at what appear to be industry discount rates through useAAmiles. I don't really care about being upgraded as long as I can snag an economy seat with extra legroom (and I usually do), and I need to shell out for tickets so I can maintain my elite status. I only use miles for flights when the tickets are prohibitively expensive compared to the cost of accommodations. I'm also free from the tyranny of frequent-stay programs, which don't always have the best hotel rooms in my favorite cities.
#4
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: UA 1K, AS MVP Gold, TK *Gold, HHonors Gold, SPG Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 570
What's your plan? Hoard miles or burn em if you got em?
if you have elite status (like I do with UA), I'd book all trips that I even remotely plan on taking. Besides that, I like to maintain 100k-ish in each program for emergencies.
But in general, earn n burn. No point in hoarding
But in general, earn n burn. No point in hoarding
#7
Join Date: May 2007
Location: IAD
Posts: 2,060
If they're with an airline that has such a program, please donate them. (But wait until I get my charity on the lists - LOL!)
Seriously, as someone who volunteers for a charity that depends a lot on air travel, it's much better to use miles to book tickets so that we can spend our donation revenue on our actual program goals.
Seriously, as someone who volunteers for a charity that depends a lot on air travel, it's much better to use miles to book tickets so that we can spend our donation revenue on our actual program goals.
#8
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR/SPG LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus
Posts: 31,007
Delta may have shaken up the model, but the net effect in terms of "value" is unclear, and from what I've seen about a wash across the board.
I was quoted in the USAToday travel section 2-3 years ago that the golden age of "loyalty" programs had passed and it was now a revenue stream. Several scoffed at the time, but I stand by the assessment and believe it is still true. I've seen no recent "wave" that isn't a continuation of the ongoing evolution and decimation of the original intent of these programs. If you haven't been burning over the last 3-5 years, you've lost a lot - it isn't just starting.
Personally, I'm down a couple million points over the last 2 years, though I still seem to earn hotel points faster than I can burn them.
#9
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: K+K
Programs: *G
Posts: 4,866
burn burn burn. im a hoarder by nature but snapped out of it a few years ago. i actually have a problem using miles since (1) need to book rev tickets to maintain status [&earn more miles!] (2) need to use use-it-or-lose-it travel allowance ....
now the problem is having enough time to use the travel!
now the problem is having enough time to use the travel!
#10
Senior Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: UA Plat/2MM [23-yr. 1K, now emeritus] clawing way back to WN-A List; MR LT Titanium; HY Whateverist.
Posts: 12,396
As this concerns the strategy for using miles, please follow the thread as it moves to the MilesBuzz forum. Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator, TravelBuzz.
#11
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: San Antonio
Programs: AS MVP
Posts: 2,276
1. Earn at the lowest possible cost, and ignore opportunities to 'buy' miles that take money out of my pocket without some way to offset it.
2. Burn as efficiently as possible and travel at every opportunity.
2. Burn as efficiently as possible and travel at every opportunity.
#12
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 690
Used to horde miles, but every program has been devaluing so quickly that I've changed my strategy. Trying to burn all of my United miles, but the inventory definitely isn't what it used to be for saverpass. That doesn't get noticed because it still beats Delta and AA, but IME they have definitely reduced the saver inventory in both economy and first.
#14
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: PHX
Programs: Whatever you have, I have too.
Posts: 377
I've always been an earn'em and burn'em type. Joined programs back in the early 1980's and have stayed loyal to a strategy of plan the trip, get the miles/points accrued for the trip, take the trip, come home, start on the next one.