Any FF programs allow stopovers on 1-way awards?
Jun 17, 2012, 5:11 pm
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This is a little misleading. You pay $75 only if you change the travel date to within 21 days of the date of ticket issuance. Therefore, you'll never pay an additional $75 for changing the date of post-stopover travel. (If you ticketed your award within 21 days of your first flight's departure date, then you will have paid the $75 fee at that time; if you did not owe the $75 at the time of ticket issuance, you would only have to pay the $75 if the date of your first flight were changed to one within 21 days of the ticket-issuance date.)
This is a little misleading. You pay $75 only if you change the travel date to within 21 days of the date of ticket issuance. Therefore, you'll never pay an additional $75 for changing the date of post-stopover travel. (If you ticketed your award within 21 days of your first flight's departure date, then you will have paid the $75 fee at that time; if you did not owe the $75 at the time of ticket issuance, you would only have to pay the $75 if the date of your first flight were changed to one within 21 days of the ticket-issuance date.)
Thanks for clearing this up and writing it in a more understandable manner.
Jun 17, 2012, 8:16 pm
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Alaska does, on their own metal only. It is not published anywhere and has to be done by phone with applicable fees. I successfully booked MSP-SEA-PDX (stop)-SEA-SAN as a 12.5k saver award, sadly had to scrub the trip.
Jun 17, 2012, 11:39 pm
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You have to fly each leg of an award ticket in sequence. And you would not be entitled to a stopover at LAX in any event, since a HNL-NYC award is not an award between North America and another zone: Hawaii falls within AA's "North America" zone.
You have to fly each leg of an award ticket in sequence. And you would not be entitled to a stopover at LAX in any event, since a HNL-NYC award is not an award between North America and another zone: Hawaii falls within AA's "North America" zone.
Jun 18, 2012, 2:44 am
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As someone else posted, you can only do this on international awards with AA. You can't have a stopover on domestic awards.
This post might help clear up how to add legs on in the beginning, end, or middle of your international itinerary on AA:
Stopover and Open Jaws on American Airlines
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Jun 18, 2012, 2:46 pm
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The ONLY stopover allowed is when you have an International award that involves North America (as defined in Geographic sense, except now the gateways exclude Caribbeans), then you can have a stopover at the North America Gateway both coming and going, so 1 is allowed in each direction.
In your HNL-LAX-NYC example, it is not an international award at all. So no stopover allowed.
However if you have a ticket that is HNL-LAX-MIA-LIM, then MIA can be the stopover on way to LIM. This is a North America to South America 1 award.
Or you have a ticket that is BCN-JFK-LAX-HNL, then the JFK can be the stopover on way to HNL. This is a Europe to North America award.
Or you have a ticket that is SYD-SIN-HKG, you have NO stopover because this international award does not involves North America. This is SouthPacific to Asia 2 award.
Last edited by Happy; Jun 18, 2012 at 3:56 pm Reason: clarification
Jun 19, 2012, 11:58 am
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You have to fly the HNL-MIA first. It's then the MIA-TLS that you can reschedule for later if you wish.
If don't fly MIA-HNL somehow to use the HNL-MIA, your MIA-TLS will be cancelled and you'll lose everything. Very bad use of miles in that case. I bet you would no likey that!
Just to clarify another points:
This trick may save you a one-way award ticket. It doesn't generally save you a round trip award ticket. You still have to "buy" a one-way ticket the other way. (But since AA prices round-trip award tickets at the same price as two one-way tickets, there's no "pricing" downside to making AA roundtrip award reservations as two one-ways instead of one roundtrip, and it may add signficant flexibility.)
Jun 19, 2012, 4:32 pm
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I hope you've got an MIA-HNL booked before that to match up with it.
You have to fly the HNL-MIA first. It's then the MIA-TLS that you can reschedule for later if you wish.
If don't fly MIA-HNL somehow to use the HNL-MIA, your MIA-TLS will be cancelled and you'll lose everything. Very bad use of miles in that case. I bet you would no likey that!
Just to clarify another points:
This trick may save you a one-way award ticket. It doesn't generally save you a round trip award ticket. You still have to "buy" a one-way ticket the other way. (But since AA prices round-trip award tickets at the same price as two one-way tickets, there's no "pricing" downside to making AA roundtrip award reservations as two one-ways instead of one roundtrip, and it may add signficant flexibility.)
You have to fly the HNL-MIA first. It's then the MIA-TLS that you can reschedule for later if you wish.
If don't fly MIA-HNL somehow to use the HNL-MIA, your MIA-TLS will be cancelled and you'll lose everything. Very bad use of miles in that case. I bet you would no likey that!
Just to clarify another points:
This trick may save you a one-way award ticket. It doesn't generally save you a round trip award ticket. You still have to "buy" a one-way ticket the other way. (But since AA prices round-trip award tickets at the same price as two one-way tickets, there's no "pricing" downside to making AA roundtrip award reservations as two one-ways instead of one roundtrip, and it may add signficant flexibility.)
The only reasons why people would still build a R/T award in the traditional sense are ,
1) because both awards (the 2 One-Way awards) are on the same ticket when in the case they need to cancel the ticket and redeposit the miles, they only incur the redeposit fee ONCE, versus if they use 2 PNRs, the fee would be twice.
2) in the case of partner award, on one single ticket you pay the phone booking fee once. On two tickets you pay the phone booking fee twice.
Jun 20, 2012, 1:16 pm
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I hope you've got an MIA-HNL booked before that to match up with it.
You have to fly the HNL-MIA first. It's then the MIA-TLS that you can reschedule for later if you wish.
If don't fly MIA-HNL somehow to use the HNL-MIA, your MIA-TLS will be cancelled and you'll lose everything. Very bad use of miles in that case. I bet you would no likey that!
Just to clarify another points:
This trick may save you a one-way award ticket. It doesn't generally save you a round trip award ticket. You still have to "buy" a one-way ticket the other way. (But since AA prices round-trip award tickets at the same price as two one-way tickets, there's no "pricing" downside to making AA roundtrip award reservations as two one-ways instead of one roundtrip, and it may add signficant flexibility.)
You have to fly the HNL-MIA first. It's then the MIA-TLS that you can reschedule for later if you wish.
If don't fly MIA-HNL somehow to use the HNL-MIA, your MIA-TLS will be cancelled and you'll lose everything. Very bad use of miles in that case. I bet you would no likey that!
Just to clarify another points:
This trick may save you a one-way award ticket. It doesn't generally save you a round trip award ticket. You still have to "buy" a one-way ticket the other way. (But since AA prices round-trip award tickets at the same price as two one-way tickets, there's no "pricing" downside to making AA roundtrip award reservations as two one-ways instead of one roundtrip, and it may add signficant flexibility.)
Jun 20, 2012, 2:28 pm
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) so they can fly the HNL-MIA leg before the MIA-TLS leg, or the whole HNL-MIA-TLS ticket will be canceled.
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Jun 20, 2012, 2:47 pm
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This is a great way to add an extra leg on to your international trip and get a free one-way to somewhere in NA that you want to go.
With the above example between LAX and LHR, you could choose to stopover in JFK in between, or you could add a leg on before and after your trip.
Case in point:
ANC (Anchorage)- LAX (stopover)- LHR
LHR-LAX (stopover)- HNL (Honolulu)
You now have a one way ticket from Anchorage to Los Angeles, meaning you'd only have to buy the ticket up there, and a one way out to Honolulu, meaning you'd only have to buy the ticket home.
AA allows you 1 whole year in your stopover, so you'd have a ton of time to make use of the trip out to Hawaii, and they allow you to change the dates after you booked, so you don't even have to have another trip planned yet...you can "stash" the free leg out to Hawaii for later, assuming you use it within that year!
All told, in economy, this would cost 95k. If you booked everything as separate tickets, it would run you 130k in economy.
With the above example between LAX and LHR, you could choose to stopover in JFK in between, or you could add a leg on before and after your trip.
Case in point:
ANC (Anchorage)- LAX (stopover)- LHR
LHR-LAX (stopover)- HNL (Honolulu)
You now have a one way ticket from Anchorage to Los Angeles, meaning you'd only have to buy the ticket up there, and a one way out to Honolulu, meaning you'd only have to buy the ticket home.
AA allows you 1 whole year in your stopover, so you'd have a ton of time to make use of the trip out to Hawaii, and they allow you to change the dates after you booked, so you don't even have to have another trip planned yet...you can "stash" the free leg out to Hawaii for later, assuming you use it within that year!
All told, in economy, this would cost 95k. If you booked everything as separate tickets, it would run you 130k in economy.
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Jun 20, 2012, 2:51 pm
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If there are "no round trip awards what-so-ever," as Happy pointed out, why is it that the HNL->MIA will be cancelled if there is no MIA->HNL?
It won't be. You can take a ship to HNL if you wish.
But if you book a HNL-MIA-TLS award, and fail to fly the HNL-MIA portion, then the MIA-TLS portion will be canceled.
Originally Posted by jza
I hope you've got an MIA-HNL booked before that to match up with it.
You have to fly the HNL-MIA first. It's then the MIA-TLS that you can reschedule for later if you wish.
If don't fly MIA-HNL somehow to use the HNL-MIA, your MIA-TLS will be cancelled and you'll lose everything. Very bad use of miles in that case. I bet you would no likey that!
Just to clarify another points:
This trick may save you a one-way award ticket. It doesn't generally save you a round trip award ticket. You still have to "buy" a one-way ticket the other way. (But since AA prices round-trip award tickets at the same price as two one-way tickets, there's no "pricing" downside to making AA roundtrip award reservations as two one-ways instead of one roundtrip, and it may add signficant flexibility.)
You have to fly the HNL-MIA first. It's then the MIA-TLS that you can reschedule for later if you wish.
If don't fly MIA-HNL somehow to use the HNL-MIA, your MIA-TLS will be cancelled and you'll lose everything. Very bad use of miles in that case. I bet you would no likey that!
Just to clarify another points:
This trick may save you a one-way award ticket. It doesn't generally save you a round trip award ticket. You still have to "buy" a one-way ticket the other way. (But since AA prices round-trip award tickets at the same price as two one-way tickets, there's no "pricing" downside to making AA roundtrip award reservations as two one-ways instead of one roundtrip, and it may add signficant flexibility.)
But if you book a HNL-MIA-TLS award, and fail to fly the HNL-MIA portion, then the MIA-TLS portion will be canceled.
Last edited by guv1976; Jun 20, 2012 at 2:52 pm