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Old Jan 28, 2011, 6:34 am
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Originally Posted by pnwd00d
I'm sort of disappointed by some of the negative comments from people who haven't actually taken the time to give it an objective look.
What makes you think I haven't?
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FT..is Great...Premo Additiion gets you more....
Premium removes the ads and gets you the ability to host photos in the FT gallery. That's it AFAIK.
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Old Jan 28, 2011, 7:25 am
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Thank you for being so honest, and credibility...

Ads are not alwys that great, and photo's are nice..

Anythign seen on other sites of interest makes for a great post..

Very few web sits are worth paying $500.00 a year for...

View from the cheap seats...
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Old Jan 28, 2011, 1:25 pm
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Double post Sorry
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Old Jan 28, 2011, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by pnwd00d
I'm sort of disappointed by some of the negative comments from people who haven't actually taken the time to give it an objective look. I guess I should have thicker skin since forums tend to be this way though.

I'm signed up on the trial basis for 14 days to check it out. Chris has a couple of digital books out about travel hacking/miles gathering and the Travel Cartel is designed to be an ongoing and updated information source in the same vein. Observations that it's an aggregator of deals are correct. A lot of the information posted there is certainly available here as well..... after you wade through years of posts and then try to subsequently figure out what is current and what is not.... Or I could just read a paragraph and know instantly on the Travel Cartel. Is it for someone who has elite status every which way to Sunday? No. Is it incredibly useful and a massive time saver for someone like me who is just getting my feet wet? Yes.

It's worth mentioning also that Chris frequently credits sites like this one for having useful and up to date information. He's not trying to "trick" anyone. He's a blogger/writer and is simply offering a product which he is happy to refund your money for if you decide it wasn't worth it to you. In fact come to think of it, I found this site as a result of his product.
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Old Jan 28, 2011, 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by mabell4428
First, since this is only my 2nd post on Flyertalk, let me say hello. Glad I found you.

My journey to acquire (then spend) miles began a few weeks ago and over the course of the past 3 weeks I've been reading most of the sites mentioned in this thread, Chris's AONC site and others (like credit card review sites). It was an immersive process and I just feel like I'm finally coming up to speed.

I joined the Cartel because I want to get as much knowledge (and miles!) as I can in:
  • The most basic "layperson" terms
  • With the least amount of effort
  • In the shortest period of time

to help meet my travel goals.

The information is well organized and presented in small digestible videos and articles. Do I recommend it for people who already have 500K miles, elite status, etc? No, you guys have already conquered this game - and I'm thankful you share your learnings here. Hopefully I'll be able to contribute my knowledge to the conversation at some point in the very near future.

As a person who consults for a living, I can appreciate that Chris created a business model that capitalizes on the knowledge he's acquired through all his traveling and miles accruals. The Cartel will just have to prove to be a value for me as I start gaining more knowledge.
Glad you found us too, are you a twin or triplett?
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Old Jan 28, 2011, 1:29 pm
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FTG Blog will look better shortly

Originally Posted by Astrophsx
It's too bad the frugal travel guy's blog doesn't look like their page

8 ways to fly free from the travel hacking cartel... is this not misleading? No matter if you have the miles.. you still have to pay tax? One of the 8 should be get a job as a flight attendant.. haha
Astrophsx: Point well taken. It takes us old timers a little bit longer than you young pups to change. We will be transfrerring the FTG blog to Wordpress shortly.

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Old Jan 28, 2011, 1:31 pm
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Originally Posted by IPBrian
As someone pretty new to flyertalk it can be a bit intimidating and I can see where someone would want to pay for quick aggregated info...of course I would also think these would be the same people who would simply pay full price for a ticket. $468 a year could take you some where. Chris is a very good promoter and designer. I have read some of his books, but cant say I learned anything new (keep in mind I am REALLY new at this) and I think perhaps I found Lucky's blog via ANOC. Personally I think it works better with the spirit of getting stuff at low cost to get the info from the free blogs...just a personal opinion.
I've always been appreciative of the people that just come out of the woodwork to save someone's good name. There is absolutely no reason we would suspect a motive is there?
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Old Jan 28, 2011, 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by ingy
Astrophsx: Point well taken. It takes us old timers a little bit longer than you young pups to change. We will be transfrerring the FTG blog to Wordpress shortly.

I'll never be a design expert. My concern has been and always will be: content, content, content
Well hello there, are you over in Hawaii as we speak? I am quite happy with your site and enjoy chatting with you even more (IN PERSON). We need to meet again sometime soon. Is there a DO in the works?
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Old Jan 28, 2011, 8:01 pm
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Guys, the Cartel acts somewhat like a clipping service. Some folks like execs only have time for extracts from publications and no time to read the full story. Reader's Digest has its place.


The Cartel is value-added in its niche. Not everyone has the time, creativity, skill, education, or savy to do what some of us do. Alas, I'd be hesitant to join a Cartel that would lower its standards enough to allow me in as a member.

Originally Posted by EasternTraveler
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Old Jan 28, 2011, 8:40 pm
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Originally Posted by ingy
Astrophsx: Point well taken. It takes us old timers a little bit longer than you young pups to change. We will be transfrerring the FTG blog to Wordpress shortly.

I'll never be a design expert. My concern has been and always will be: content, content, content
I'm so glad you're going to update the look of the site. I admit I was initially deterred by the look of the site when I first heard about it. But as you say, it was the content that kept me reading (and eventually, I added it to my RSS feeder, so I don't have to worry about looks at all ). Keep up the good work!
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Old Feb 10, 2011, 12:28 am
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travelhacking.org promises 4 r/t a year for $15 a month

https://travelhacking.org/

I was sent this URL and read up on it, but not too in-depth. I def wouldn't use the product, but I am curious if anyone out there knows anything about this.
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Old Feb 10, 2011, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by stupidzbu
https://travelhacking.org/

I was sent this URL and read up on it, but not too in-depth. I def wouldn't use the product, but I am curious if anyone out there knows anything about this.
Yes, I'm familiar with it. If you are here and willing to read a bit every day then you're wasting your money with them. The "deals" are basically the same CC deals and such that are shared here for free every day.
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Old Feb 11, 2011, 10:25 am
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I signed up for the the travel hacking cartel about a week ago for the $39.00 per month. This is the most expensive of the three options and promises upgrades and attention to premium travel with posts.

Chris, there hasn't been one deal or focus article on this in the last week. I really think the levels of membership are a scam.

He went on to promise to keep the focus away from the standard CC and financial investment deals for miles. 50% of the deals that post are simply that. How many investment accounts or CC's can one person have? Sure rotate it annually, but grabbing 50 different CC's just isn't fiscally responsible in my book. The other 30% involve some mileage incentive to lure people to the site.

At the end of the day, there just isn't much of a product here.

If you do it, do it for 2 weeks and cancel. There really is no value here for the newby nor the vet.

At $480 per year, I'll save my money and invest it into two round trip tickets with some mileage running in the process. Potentially I'll have earned an additional ticket in the process. That's guaranteed 2 tix plus one potential. This site simply can't guarentee those results.

FYI Chris' guarentee isn't money back, it's for additional months of service.

Thoughts?
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Old Feb 11, 2011, 10:35 am
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I think Chris's million mile challenge introduced me to FFM. In searching more, I found FT and have rarely looked back at his site for info as it relates to FFM. Thanks FT for your info, Thanks Chris for other stuff.
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Old Feb 11, 2011, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by sundayrundown
I signed up for the the travel hacking cartel about a week ago for the $39.00 per month. This is the most expensive of the three options and promises upgrades and attention to premium travel with posts.

Chris, there hasn't been one deal or focus article on this in the last week. I really think the levels of membership are a scam.

He went on to promise to keep the focus away from the standard CC and financial investment deals for miles. 50% of the deals that post are simply that. How many investment accounts or CC's can one person have? Sure rotate it annually, but grabbing 50 different CC's just isn't fiscally responsible in my book. The other 30% involve some mileage incentive to lure people to the site.

At the end of the day, there just isn't much of a product here.

If you do it, do it for 2 weeks and cancel. There really is no value here for the newby nor the vet.

At $480 per year, I'll save my money and invest it into two round trip tickets with some mileage running in the process. Potentially I'll have earned an additional ticket in the process. That's guaranteed 2 tix plus one potential. This site simply can't guarentee those results.

FYI Chris' guarentee isn't money back, it's for additional months of service.

Thoughts?
Based upon what you say, I'd write Chris and ask for a refund. If he doesn't give you one, I'd do a chargeback as he hasn't delivered what he promised.
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