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I might still get the card but only because the 100k can be used on OneWorld carriers like AA which does not have a YQ. Terrible redemption value (100k for coach upto 20k miles flown like in this US-DEL example), but makes a long-haul ticket about $200 incl. all taxes and card fees which is a decent deal.
Why would it be terrible redemption value for the 20K miles flown OW award?
It is the same as AA's, 100K in Y, 130K in J and 180K in F.
Though I suspect the tax / fee would be much lower using AA miles.
For BA, the J award is 2X the Y award. So 200K BA miles for 20,000 mile OW award (instead of 130K AA). F is 3X (300K BA vs. 180K AA).
The real value in the OW award (IMO) is because of unlimited stopovers + 1 open jaw, up to 16 segments.
I don't think BA can charge YQ for partner routes (unless the partner themselves charges one), since it's not booked as a codeshare or anything. But I may be wrong
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Redemption Flights and Redemption Vouchers may only be used for flights on British Airways mainline service, which have a BA prefixed flight number. Travel on franchise, codeshare or alliance airlines is not permitted.
For those of us located on the east coast, the next sentence is also a problematic restriction:
"All travel must originate in and return to the US."
If all you wanted was a pair of BA J or F seats from LHR to CPT, MRU, or DEL etc., this offer won't work for you. [From NYC one can almost always find a cheap, paid TATL flight on AA, CO or DL that costs significantly less than what BA charges for fuel surcharges alone. To also spend a lot of miles for the TATL --- in addition to high fuel surcharges --- is typically not a good use of BA mles]
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For those of us located on the east coast, the next sentence is also a problematic restriction:
"All travel must originate in and return to the US."
If all you wanted was a pair of BA J or F seats from LHR to CPT, MRU, or DEL etc., this offer won't work for you. [From NYC one can almost always find a cheap, paid TATL flight on AA, CO or DL that costs significantly less than what BA charges for fuel surcharges alone. To also spend a lot of miles for the TATL --- in addition to high fuel surcharges --- is typically not a good use of BA mles]
And even if there is partner availability, I think BA will put you on their own metal if it's available (and subsequently charging you their extra fees).
That's why the oneworld award seems like the best deal to me, unless you're pooling multiple of these bonuses together for a longhaul F/J award. You get to at least choose the metal you fly on.
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The value in the card is the free companion award, that requires BA metal, and there the value is in premium class travel.. leverage it the way I described above, 2 people get the card and pool miles via a household account... one hits the minimum spend for the voucher.. 240k miles 2 ppl fly F US-LHR-DXB. Crazy, considering it's only $32k in total spend on a credit card to get that.
Or 1 person could get the card, put $40k in spend on it, hit 150k miles and 2 people fly say LAX-LHR in F.
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This is a big time win for me. I live in Tampa, and Tampa's only non-stop to Eurpoe is BA to Gatwick. It kills me that my AA miles won't work on the flight, and I have thought about trying to rack up BA miles just to redeem for that award, so Mrs. Mike1625 can have a non-stop (where I have grown used to looking for out of the way stops as often as possible).
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This always happens. Get the card, then a better offer comes along. Will they allow a second card or are all of we early adopters out of luck on this offer?
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If I'm understanding the BA redemption structure correctly, I could fly AA from NYC to Hawaii roundtrip in first class (on two-class aircraft) with en route stopovers for 70,000 BA miles, versus flying the same route without stopovers for 75,000 AAdvantage miles. Is this correct?
Edited to add: BAEC has advised that flying first class on AA, even on a two-class aircraft, requires redemption at the first class award level, which would be 105,000 BAEC miles for NYC-Hawaii on AA. But en route stopovers, at connecting points along the "most direct routing," are free and unlimited.
knowing BA's wonderful standards..they will probably cancel the miles bonus once you sign up for the card...just because they can. leaving you with a card you don't need or necessarily want and no "free" trip if you can even call it that.
If I'm understanding the BA redemption structure correctly, I could fly AA from NYC to Hawaii roundtrip in first class (on two-class aircraft) with en route stopovers for 70,000 BA miles, versus flying the same route without stopovers for 75,000 AAdvantage miles. Is this correct?