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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Dec 4, 2011, 5:04 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
The A380 usually arrives at a C gate but sometimes at a B gate. Unless the SFO flight is late or immigration queues very long, you should have enough time for a bite and a shower in the Welcome Lounge.

You'll have to go through immigration in any case before catching the CDG flight whether you go to the Welcome Lounge or not and customs are almost unnoticeable. If you think you'll have the time just follow the signs for the Exit rather than for the departure gate for your CDG flight in A.

There is priority security for C passengers and LH1034 leaves from an A gate. The higher the gate number the further from the central area. I would leave the Welcome Lounge 45 mins before departure.
This is a fabulous thread. I'm assuming the above information applies to my schedule: arriving 5:30 am on LH metal JFK-FRA in C with a three hour layover before transferring to an LH flight to VCE. We deplane, Exit, find the Welcome Lounge, shower, have a leisurely breakfast, pass back through security with our hand luggage and fly to Venice.

This may be a silly question (being a non-status person having just redeemed my Grand Slam points for travel in C), but are towels provided in the shower? What a wonderful way to be welcomed. At first I thought a 3 hour layover was a tad long, but this might work out quite nice for Mrs. dwcatty and me.
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Old Dec 4, 2011, 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by dwcatty
This is a fabulous thread. I'm assuming the above information applies to my schedule: arriving 5:30 am on LH metal JFK-FRA in C with a three hour layover before transferring to an LH flight to VCE. We deplane, Exit, find the Welcome Lounge, shower, have a leisurely breakfast, pass back through security with our hand luggage and fly to Venice.

This may be a silly question (being a non-status person having just redeemed my Grand Slam points for travel in C), but are towels provided in the shower? What a wonderful way to be welcomed. At first I thought a 3 hour layover was a tad long, but this might work out quite nice for Mrs. dwcatty and me.
Follow the signs for the Exit after deplaning and go through passport control before going down to the arrivals level where the Welcome Lounge is located.

Yes, they provide towels and toileteries (shampoo, shower gel, etc.) in the Welcome Lounge. It opens at 5:30am so you and Mrs. dwcatty should be two of the first guests!

And skip breakfast on the plane!
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Old Dec 4, 2011, 5:44 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
And skip breakfast on the plane!
Great stuff, and I read the suggestion somewhere to have the FA not wake us for breakfast on the plane. Do they have strudel in the lounge? This will be our only meal in Germany, lol.

BTW, I found the dedicated "Welcome Lounge" thread and this recent report from bartla, complete with pictures.

On leaving the Welcome Lounge we pass back through security, I understand. There is a shortcut line for C passengers? And as a normal dirt flyer w/o status, what other lounge might we wait in after security before the flight to VCE?

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Originally Posted by dwcatty
Great stuff, and I read the suggestion somewhere to have the FA not wake us for breakfast on the plane. Do they have strudel in the lounge? This will be our only meal in Germany, lol.

BTW, I found the dedicated "Welcome Lounge" thread and this recent report from bartla, complete with pictures.

On leaving the Welcome Lounge we pass back through security, I understand. There is a shortcut line for C passengers? And as a normal dirt flyer w/o status, what other lounge might we wait in after security before the flight to VCE?
FAs will ask you if you want to be woken up for breakfast.

They only have breakfast stuff like these in the Welcome Lounge, but will also prepare cooked breakfast (eggs, bacon, etc.) on request.





There should be priority security for C and F passengers. The nearest lounge for your VCE flight will be the Business Lounge by gate A26. I haven't seen any strudel in the Welcome or Business lounges.

BTW the link to bartla's report seems to be broken. Here's a link which should work.

http://travel.bart.la/2011/11/14/luf...nge-frankfurt/
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
If you hold a US passport or any passport which doesn't need a visa to enter Schengen, you can just say you are in transit and want to go to the FCT if you are asked. I'm sure you won't be the first one!

After immigration go down to the arrival/baggage claim level, leave the terminal building through any of the doors and turn left. Or follow some detailed instructions by following the link below. When you reach the FCT go through the automatic glass doors on the street level and up the elevator to the main reception area or walk up the spiral stairs outside.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...l#post17103792
Just want to report I did make it to FCT.

My UA flight from IAD did park at a remote stand and had to bus in. The purser on my UA flight did go above and beyond to call up UA GS agent at FRA to escort me all the way out to the building and showed me where to go once outside of the terminal. It was a lot easier than I thought and didn't take that long to walk to FCT. The FCT experience was totally worth it but my FRA-KIX flight was another story.

Thanks for your help once again.
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Originally Posted by ORDnHKG
Just want to report I did make it to FCT.

My UA flight from IAD did park at a remote stand and had to bus in. The purser on my UA flight did go above and beyond to call up UA GS agent at FRA to escort me all the way out to the building and showed me where to go once outside of the terminal. It was a lot easier than I thought and didn't take that long to walk to FCT. The FCT experience was totally worth it but my FRA-KIX flight was another story.

Thanks for your help once again.
I'm glad you enjoyed the visit to the FCT.

It looks like LH740 FRA-KIX has only been getting the new F every other day since the beginning of December. Did you end up with the 744 with the old F?
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
I'm glad you enjoyed the visit to the FCT.

It looks like LH740 FRA-KIX has only been getting the new F every other day since the beginning of December. Did you end up with the 744 with the old F?
No, I did fly on the 744 with new F (to be more specific, it was D-ABVS). What I wasn't happy was about the service, food, and amenities. I will write a trip report once I return to ORD shortly in January.

A little hint: I was told no mid-flight snack available except the "movie snack" from C, which consist of bananas, pre-package seaweed riceball, roast beef wrap, salmon wrap, that's it for this 11 hours flight. In my opinion, it is pretty pathetic for non-US carrier int'l F. This is just one example, I have a lot more to tell.

PS I will return on LH F MUC-ORD with 343 in old F (connecting from LX F HKG-ZRH-MUC), hopefully will see better experience.

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Flying LH from Houston to FRA to Delhi

Four of us (wife, I, 2 kids - 6 and 2 yo) are flying in economy on LH 441 in coming week and connecting to DEL - all on Lufthansa. We have four seats. I am reading some so so reviews of Lufthansa Economy seats, food etc. Is that right? Should we pack lots of snacks for kids? First time on Lufthansa - was able to book using CO Onepass miles, where I am Presidnetial Platinum elite. Can the four of us access lounge in FRA using my elite status? Only have 4.5 hour layover. Any other tips while in FRA or in flight? Thanks
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In a few weeks I'll fly TXL-FRA-ICN, first time in LH business class, therefore access to the Business Lounges to kill 2 hours between the flights.
The ICN flights obviously leave from the dreadful C gates. Physically I know the way from the A to the C gates, but which lounge would you recommend for the transfer? I would prefer one with easy access to a smoker cabin
For that reason the lounge at the c gates seem to be unhandy as you have to leave the security area when you want to go for a cigarette...
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Originally Posted by ex-koelner
In a few weeks I'll fly TXL-FRA-ICN, first time in LH business class, therefore access to the Business Lounges to kill 2 hours between the flights.
The ICN flights obviously leave from the dreadful C gates. Physically I know the way from the A to the C gates, but which lounge would you recommend for the transfer? I would prefer one with easy access to a smoker cabin
For that reason the lounge at the c gates seem to be unhandy as you have to leave the security area when you want to go for a cigarette...
C gates may be further away for connecting but they are not dreadful. There are two Business lounges near gates C14-16 and as far as I know they are nicer than other Business lounges in FRA, with direct boarding from the lounge.

I'm afraid I can't answer the question about a smoker cabin.
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I agree, direct boarding from the lounges is a nice thing. The 'dreadful' was rather the ordinary Y pax perspective: once you have cleared passport and security controls, there is nothing except long hallways and boring waiting rooms, almost no shops and no bars for pastime.
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Originally Posted by ex-koelner
In a few weeks I'll fly TXL-FRA-ICN, first time in LH business class, therefore access to the Business Lounges to kill 2 hours between the flights.
The ICN flights obviously leave from the dreadful C gates. Physically I know the way from the A to the C gates, but which lounge would you recommend for the transfer? I would prefer one with easy access to a smoker cabin
For that reason the lounge at the c gates seem to be unhandy as you have to leave the security area when you want to go for a cigarette...
The ICN flight sometimes leaves from the B gates...
The C Gate SEN Lounge has a smoking room inside the lounge. Maybe you can find a fellow FTer in the lounge meeting thread who could guest you in.

(What date are you flying? Will be flying to ICN Dec 26...)
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I'll be connecting at FRA (coming from LH F ex USA) and continuing onto BRU (LH J) 3.5 hours later.

I'd like to exit the secured area and go to worldshop. I'm also going to check an empty luggage for my shopping

What's the best way about clearing immigration? Will someone come take me to the first class lounge/terminal? I've only connected in MUC and the passport control was inside the first class lounge. Is FRA the same? Should I clear immigration at the first class lounge or do I have to go to the regular immigration. Will whoever is coming to take me (if they even come) take me to the front of immigration?
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Originally Posted by BlissWorld
I'll be connecting at FRA (coming from LH F ex USA) and continuing onto BRU (LH J) 3.5 hours later.

I'd like to exit the secured area and go to worldshop. I'm also going to check an empty luggage for my shopping

What's the best way about clearing immigration? Will someone come take me to the first class lounge/terminal? I've only connected in MUC and the passport control was inside the first class lounge. Is FRA the same? Should I clear immigration at the first class lounge or do I have to go to the regular immigration. Will whoever is coming to take me (if they even come) take me to the front of immigration?
FRA has no first class lounge with passport control for arriving passengers and nobody will escort you on arrival. There's no priority immigration either.

Just go through any passport control but after visiting the WorldShop leave the terminal building and walk to the First Class Terminal. There should be plenty of instructions on how to get there in this thread.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...l#post17103792
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Any suggestions to spend a day in Frankfurt if one takes a day break en route from Asia to USA via FRA?
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