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Old Jan 5, 09, 9:25 am   #16
 
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You can make 3rd party bookings on Lufthansa, however you need to set up a profile first. This is an option on the price page at the bottom, where it lists 'one of the benefits of a registered user' as:

Being able to book flights for someone else.

Don't get this confused with an M&M account, although that is also an option when you register.
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Old Jan 5, 09, 9:52 am   #17
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If you have a profile on LH-USA.com you can book tickets for others with your credit card. No sweat.
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Old Jan 5, 09, 9:15 pm   #18
 
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Thanks for your kind replies guys.

Lufthansa US website also has the same show your credit card policy as the others?

Why do I asked this "strange question" in the first place? Well. I asked it in the travel safety/security forum in the first place, just moderator moved it here, I don't know why. The purpose of the travel safety/security forum is to expose all kind of stupidity in the travel industry, that's exactly why I posted it.

Thanks for the recommended links to other similar topics: they are also very insightful.

Bottom line:
Do any of you have found out the reason WHY airlines do or have to apply this strange policy?

I have no idea, but as you also noted, I may just bring my business elsewhere, if no other option then to Travelocity/Expedia/Orbitz.

Cheers!
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Old Jan 6, 09, 12:54 am   #19
 
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Thanks for your kind replies guys.

Lufthansa US website also has the same show your credit card policy as the others?

Why do I asked this "strange question" in the first place? Well. I asked it in the travel safety/security forum in the first place, just moderator moved it here, I don't know why. The purpose of the travel safety/security forum is to expose all kind of stupidity in the travel industry, that's exactly why I posted it.

Thanks for the recommended links to other similar topics: they are also very insightful.

Bottom line:
Do any of you have found out the reason WHY airlines do or have to apply this strange policy?

I have no idea, but as you also noted, I may just bring my business elsewhere, if no other option then to Travelocity/Expedia/Orbitz.

Cheers!
go back and read what you've already been told earlier in this thread. This is to do with preventing CC fraud, not safety or security. Try booking a 1-way from Nigeria for a friend and I'm sure they will ask to see the credit card. In the majority of other cases (on LH) you won't.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 6:27 am   #20
 
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I believe you can have you booking verified any time before the flight at an LH Office or at an airport. I know I have done this before when I booked and paid for the whole family but I flew out a few days earlier.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 5:28 pm   #21
 
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You can always use a third party web-site such as Expedia, Orbitz, Travelocity, etc. You make actually get a cheaper fare on them sometimes that the airlines directly.

I did book a flight ARN-LIS via FRA on Lufthansa on Orbitz yesterday. I got it for almost half the price that I could get on Lufthansa website.

Any ideas why this big difference ($213 instead of roughly $390)?
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Old Jan 6, 09, 6:31 pm   #22
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Any ideas why this big difference ($213 instead of roughly $390)?
Usually this is due to different inventories at different POS.
Booking on lufthansa-usa.com would probably have resulted in the same price as on Orbitz.
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Old Jan 13, 09, 7:45 pm   #23
 
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go back and read what you've already been told earlier in this thread. This is to do with preventing CC fraud, not safety or security. Try booking a 1-way from Nigeria for a friend and I'm sure they will ask to see the credit card. In the majority of other cases (on LH) you won't.
If it is about fraud protection, why no-frills airlines don't it? Why US airlines don't do it? Why other high-ticket non airline ticket merchandise companies don't do it?

They not only ask for your physical card to be present for flights originating from Nigeria, but for all flights.

Oh, and what do you think guys these credit card checking companies policies are on gift cards, virtual cards and cards that are issued in the name of the company, like other prepaid cards. As they are not part of the name and address verification scheme, flight is bookable with them, but do the airline let me fly?
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Old Jan 14, 09, 4:53 am   #24
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They not only ask for your physical card to be present for flights originating from Nigeria, but for all flights.
How many LCCs and US carriers have nonstop service to Nigeria?

And since when have US carriers stopped checking CCs? At least until very recently, commom FT knowledge suggested that several major US airlines have a habit of implementing am annoying "show me your CC" policy. Has this changed overnight?

Anyway, since your statement "LH is asking for a physical card to be present on all flights" is a plain lie (0.00% truth content), may I ask which universe you are occupying?
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Old Jan 14, 09, 8:56 pm   #25
 
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maybe i can help

Happy New Year all! Have been busy at work but glanced at this while waiting in line and thought I could be of some help.

Booking for third party is possible as previously stated... you can see in the booking process below the passenger name fields the statement "Third party booking can only be made if you are logged in." There do remain however certain destinations which seem to invite fraudulent forms of payment and we monitor those as well by limiting purchase with a cc only in person.

As for having the purchasing credit card available during travel, this is intended to help retrieve the ticket data from the etix database for checking in, online or at a quick check-in kiosk. It is called a FOID (form of identification) and travel agencies use it as well as lufthansa.com and the LH call centers.

When etix was introduced, FOID could only be a credit card the passenger would be carrying; it could be that you bought your mom a ticket in the call center with your credit card and gave LH her credit card which she would have with her while traveling for check-in. While purchasing on lh.com to prevent fraud you could only make a booking for yourself and with your own cc which you would have on you anyway.

As the technology improved you could then choose to use either M&M card or credit card as FOID. After more etix cooperation between *A carriers you could also use their FF cards as a FOID. Now you can use online or mobile check-in with any of these OR your Amadeus booking code (see the drop down menu at the online check-in page).

Here is a more detailed explanation of FOIDs. You can see that lh.com booking process currently accepts either a credit card or M&M card as FOID while TAs and the LH call center can book and accept many *A FF cards as well.

I hope this clears things up a bit for all of you. If you have further questions please let me know and I will try my best to answer them.


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Old Jan 15, 09, 1:59 am   #26
 
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You can make 3rd party bookings on Lufthansa, however you need to set up a profile first. This is an option on the price page at the bottom, where it lists 'one of the benefits of a registered user' as:

Being able to book flights for someone else.

Don't get this confused with an M&M account, although that is also an option when you register.
That's true. I recently bought a ticket for a family member and, between choosing the flights and the actual booking process, there was the question whether the ticket was for me or for somebody else.
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Old Jan 15, 09, 4:15 am   #27
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Here is a more detailed explanation of FOIDs. You can see that lh.com booking process currently accepts either a credit card or M&M card as FOID while TAs and the LH call center can book and accept many *A FF cards as well.
Then again, bringing a specific FOID to the airport isn't mandatory at all. The quick check-in machines (of LH and other airlines, such as UA) basically accept any customer/banking/credit card with your name on it, and the human CI agents will accept any form if ID, be it a passport, ID card, your FF card, whatever. In order to find your flight, it's usually smart to bring your PNR with you, as well.
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Old Jan 15, 09, 5:00 am   #28
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In order to find your flight, it's usually smart to bring your PNR with you, as well.
and the ticket numbers for the times when things go wrong!
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Old Jan 15, 09, 5:06 am   #29
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and the ticket numbers for the times when things go wrong!
Those are usually printed on the PNR, at least with checkmytrip and viewtrip.
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Old Jan 15, 09, 5:10 am   #30
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Those are usually printed on the PNR, at least with checkmytrip and viewtrip.
yes, but only on the GDS where the itinerary was originally booked, and it is not always included in the booking confirmation sent by airline websites.
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